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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 13, 2017 2:27:18 GMT
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - l2 row
Theme: Ravens of War
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Fuel Cache - Steamroller Objective
Lylyth, Shadow of Everblight - WB: +28
- Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11)
- Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11)
- Naga Nightlurker - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 6)
- Nephilim Bolt Thrower - PC: 11
Strider Deathstalker - PC: 0
Strider Deathstalker - PC: 0
The Forsaken - PC: 4
Grotesque Assassin - PC: 4
Blighted Nyss Sorceress & Hellion - PC: 6
The Forsaken - PC: 4
Blighted Nyss Raptors - Leader & 4 Grunts: 18
Strider Scouts - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Strider Scout Officer & Musician - Officer & Musician: 4
Grotesque Banshees - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13
THEME: Ravens of War
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GENERATED : 04/12/2017 21:22:09
BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16
I'm sure you get the basic idea of the list, cut off AD and jam with banshees, while decimating infantry, my question is do I need Ryvaal or are the second forsaken and the assassin keepers. I also have the option of taking a bloodseer to help with Lyths FURY 5 stat.
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landuin
Baby's First Wargame
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Post by landuin on Apr 13, 2017 10:03:25 GMT
I personally feel that Ryvaal is an excellent piece to have in almost any list. She also has the benefit of being an efficient target for Wraithbane when this situation occurs.
I personally would look to drop the Blighted Nyss Sorceress & Hellion instead of the Forsaken, as I don't see any immediate benefit to her being in the list (as much as I adore her Wind Ravager spell).
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 13, 2017 13:57:28 GMT
I personally feel that Ryvaal is an excellent piece to have in almost any list. She also has the benefit of being an efficient target for Wraithbane when this situation occurs. I personally would look to drop the Blighted Nyss Sorceress & Hellion instead of the Forsaken, as I don't see any immediate benefit to her being in the list (as much as I adore her Wind Ravager spell). I have the sorceress there for her blight shroud. Auto damaging might be needed for the low power of the list. |
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Post by norka19 on Apr 13, 2017 15:25:50 GMT
Who are you playing against in your meta that this list would be effective against?
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Post by wwjonnyd on Apr 13, 2017 15:43:11 GMT
I'm not seeing how this deals with anything other than infantry spam. Vs balanced lists or anything with remote amounts of armour, this list is just going to flounder. As infantry spam is virtually non existent now outside a few random khador casters, is there something in your meta this is geared to fight? Just seems against common meta compositions around the world this list is just going to flounder.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 13, 2017 15:47:48 GMT
Who are you playing against in your meta that this list would be effective against? Scorn and cryx infantry lists. |
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Post by Cheesebeard on Apr 13, 2017 16:52:00 GMT
I'm not seeing how this deals with anything other than infantry spam. Vs balanced lists or anything with remote amounts of armour, this list is just going to flounder. As infantry spam is virtually non existent now outside a few random khador casters, is there something in your meta this is geared to fight? Just seems against common meta compositions around the world this list is just going to flounder. Cephalyx' infantry spam is a very real thing in competitive environments, paired with Ossrum gunbunny spam, usually. I've seen it a bit with Menoth, paired with Amon's Dervish spam. And you mentioned Khador – and I think we'll see it more there as people experiment with the IFP theme and with Strakhov2. Cryx' Ghost Fleet can have some units, but incorporeal will be a significant issue in that matchup with only one Naga. Skorne is all over the map, but I do think they run infantry better that most. It's probably a fairly meta-specific thing, tbh – I think balanced lists are surfacing a bit more in local spaces. Overall, though, I'm not personally a fan of Bolt Thrower spam... but that's not surprising (see: my avatar), and I have found Scouts to under-perform this edition. Banshees I think definitely want the Assassin - being stealth and immune to blast is pretty amazing for the approach. |
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Post by cainuslupus on Apr 13, 2017 18:42:43 GMT
Bolt Throwers are very Fury inneficent. Three I think are a stretch. I would think about including:
- Teraphs. With AD and AoE 4" they do a lot of work against infantry. Wraitbane allow them to vaporize Revenant Crew in ghost fleet.
- Angelius for meelee threat and some scenario play.
I would include Assassin and Annyssa might be nice (with Wraithbaine she can do some work against Lances).
Also - Sorceress seems like a dead weight. I don't believe in death by thousand cuts, it will kill you on clock.
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Whiskie
Junior Strategist
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Post by Whiskie on Apr 15, 2017 3:24:13 GMT
I think if you're going to play Lylyth3 in Ravens you probably want to take an Archangel so you don't end up completely helpless against anything with armor. As was mentioned above Bolt Throwers cost a ton of Fury for their output especially if they need to cast their Animus each turn so they're a one-of in the vast majority of cases. Never tried playing Lylyth3 in Ravens but maybe something like this?
Lylyth3
- Archangel
- Bolt Thrower
- Naga Nightlurker
Max Grotesque Banshees
Strider Scouts
- Officer & Musician
Sorceress & Hellion
2x Deathstalkers
2x Forsaken
Grotesque Assassin (free)
EDIT: I am a dumbass. I thought this was a Lylyth3 thread. Ignore me.
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