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eaves003
Demo Gamer

Posts: 14

List Pair Jul 15, 2018 6:57:38 GMT via Tapatalk

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Post by eaves003 on Jul 15, 2018 6:57:38 GMT

Please Critique my list pair.

And before the Old Witch is rubbish, I have had success in my meta using her 😊. She has great control of the board.

Thanks.
War Room Army

Khador - OW1 29th july

Theme: Winter Guard Kommand
2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army

The Old Witch of Khador - WJ: +18
- Scrapjack
- Marauder - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11)
- Marauder - PC: 11 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7)
- Juggernaut - PC: 13
- Kodiak - PC: 13

Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich - PC: 4
Gobber Tinker - PC: 2

Winter Guard Infantry - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 4
Winter Guard Rifle Corps - Leader & 9 Grunts: 13
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
- Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2
Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0
Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0

THEME: Winter Guard Command

War Room Army

Khador - V2 Supermen 29th

Theme: Armored Corps
3 / 3 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army

Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Champion - WJ: +27
- Victor - PC: 34 (Battlegroup Points Used: 27)

Man-O-War Drakhun - PC: 9
- Man-O-War Drakhun (Continued)
Man-O-War Drakhun - PC: 9
- Man-O-War Drakhun (Continued)
Man-O-War Suppression Tanker - PC: 0
Man-O-War Kovnik - PC: 0

Kommandant Atanas Arconovich & Standard - Arconovich & Standard Bearer: 7
Man-O-War Shocktroopers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Man-O-War Shocktrooper Officer - PC: 4
Man-O-War Demolition Corps - Leader & 4 Grunts: 14
- Sergeant Dragos Dragadovich - PC: 0
Man-O-War Demolition Corps - Leader & 2 Grunts: 8

THEME: Armored Corps
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GENERATED : 07/15/2018 07:56:07
BUILD ID : 2067.18-06-10

hocestbellum
The Sky Fell

Posts: 1,509

List Pair Jul 15, 2018 8:16:27 GMT

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Post by hocestbellum on Jul 15, 2018 8:16:27 GMT

I don't play a lot of OW or WGK, but I'd recommend dropping a jack of some sort to fit in Aiyana & Holt with Valachev. Getting +2 damage on the shooting pushes it from 'good' to 'obnoxious'. Also, it gives you a source of magical weapons; currently the only ones in either list are on your warcasters. It's super useful into Cryx, some Grymkin lists, and Menoth.

The V2 list seems fine; I've not personally gotten great mileage out of the Drakhuns, and they seem very expensive for 1 attack, even though it is high quality.
If you can, consider fitting in another unit of Shocktroopers. Under feat and HoF they are lethal; they get double duty from all the buffs because of Assault. I imagine a Strike Tanker is a good shout for much the same reason.

The more people tell me Sorscha0 is required to play jack lists, the more determined I am to never run her.

Netherby
The Sky Fell

Posts: 1,022

List Pair Jul 15, 2018 8:49:19 GMT

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Post by Netherby on Jul 15, 2018 8:49:19 GMT

All looks fine except you don't have magical weapons really built into either list. A&H&V go really well in WGK, so look at adding them to your Witch list.

I also can't really say great things about Drakhuns. I can tell you that I've had great success with Bombardiers under Vlad2 though. I also haven't found Viktor that amazing sadly... I would look and dialling back the battle group spend to get more Tankers in and considering bombardiers. (Tankers are very legitimate feat targets and all activate separately which is good)

Last Edit: Jul 15, 2018 8:51:23 GMT by Netherby

maxtermynd
Mangled Metaler

Posts: 48

List Pair Jul 15, 2018 18:14:13 GMT

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Post by maxtermynd on Jul 15, 2018 18:14:13 GMT

Adding to the chorus on the AH+V for WGK, but the question is where do you get the points from. At least in my experience Old Witch (played her a lot around the start of MK3, so some of it might not apply anymore) doesn't need a ton of extra help to take down infantry- between feat and Scrappie-Doo she does just fine there. What she really needs is hitting power.

That being the case, what about this?

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Khador Army - 75 / 75 points
[Theme] Winter Guard Kommand

[Old Witch 1] The Old Witch of Khador [+18]
- Juggernaut [13]
- Kodiak [13]
- Marauder [11]
- Marauder [11]
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich [4]
Lady Aiyana & Master Holt [8]
- Koldun Kapitan Valachev [4]
Winter Guard Infantry (min) [6]
- Winter Guard Rocketeer (2) [4]
Winter Guard Mortar Crew [0(5)]
Winter Guard Rifle Corps (max) [13]
- Winter Guard Rocketeer (3) [6]

You lose the sprays, a mortar, and a rocket to squeeze them in. Another potential alteration would be to take the Rifle Corps down to min as well, but losing out on all of those Hunter shots seems like not a great plan.

Of course if you're planning on dropping this into Trenchers, losing those sprays might not be a great plan. What was your planned drops for the list?

smoothcriminal
The Sky Fell

Posts: 1,212

List Pair Jul 16, 2018 7:54:41 GMT

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Post by smoothcriminal on Jul 16, 2018 7:54:41 GMT

2 Drakhuns are too much. Drop 1 and use 10 points to take more useful stuff, like make second demo big and have a 4pt solo.

OW1 list looks fine. At this point you should know what OW1 is and willingly accept to play her.

If you are expecting to drop OW into infantry and V2 into everything else then you're list chickening yourself. What if they have 1 infantry and 1 non-infantry list? Easy way to change that would be to take B3 or V1 instead of OW1 with close to no list changes, but then it will be just a cookie cutter pairing.