AC as Butcher Delivery system (critique the list)

OK. So been thinking about this even more.

What do we want from a "butcher delivery system" We want butcher delivered RIGHT at their caster. We don't really CARE about anything else. We probably want to not lose 5-0 too fast. Least we forget - Butchers "You are dead" range is 12 inches if he can not charge (5+2+5). If he can charge, 15. If he can vengeance, 18.

So what are our component parts......

A) We want the Shocktrooper screen to stay alive.
B) We want the Shocktrooper screen to Move fast. In an ideal work we are moving AT LEAST 10 inches. This is a MAD butcher who is PISSED about Lola.  If we are shieldwalling we are doing it wrong.
C) We want Butcher to avoid spells. Spells are bad.
D) We want to avoid any pratfalls with terrian. We want to be 21 inches from their caster if we go first and 15 (or less) if we go second.
E) We want to have fun. This is Butcher3 played like Butcher 2 Mad Dogs. You might lose but you ARE going to have fun. Indeed, I see NO WAY this list is not balls to the wall fun and WILL get me to buy the Seige Chariots.

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Khador Army - 74 / 75 points
[Theme] Armored Corps

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[Butcher 3] Kommander Zoktavir, The Butcher Unleashed [+22]
- Juggernaut [13]
- Rager [10]
- War Dog [3]
Man-O-War Kovnik [4]
Man-O-War Suppression Tanker [0(6)]
Man-O-War Suppression Tanker [0(6)]
Saxon Orrik [4]
Kayazy Eliminators [5]
Kommandant Atanas Arconovich & Standard [7]
Man-O-War Shocktroopers (max) [16]
- Man-O-War Shocktrooper Officer [4]
Man-O-War Siege Chariot [15]
Man-O-War Siege Chariot [15]


Shocks under desperate pace run 10.
Butcher Casts SOD, Energizes, Charges 8
Assaults go ahead and move in front laying down clouds to be irritating - up to and including BUTT FACING the other army but more likley trying to be irritating beyond words with slams and LOS blocking. Poor Supressors run their 8. Eliminators go be irritating over on the other side of the board till Butcher gets their with the casserole dish.  Altanas hands out tough to the shocktroopers cause tough is good.  

Next turn unpack. In an Ideal world should your oppponent be so oblige use the siege guns to SLAM something to the range Butcher needs it to be at. And then...well go butcher.  But if need be we further close, using whatever we need to continue to advance agressively at their caster.

Buzzkill coming.

In a world with Sorscha 0, why would I reach for AK as a BDS vs. looking to WGK (with Sac Pawn) or Jaws (with 6+ Jacks and Kayazy)? Seems I would rather play either of those other theme in order to access 14”/19” threat ranges, and 12”/13” threats on the jacks.

No?

I'm not sure about the double siege chariot. I've had a few games with them and found them pretty underwhelming. They don't really output much, and are a bit squishy. The clouds are cute, but realistically with how close you have to place the clouds to the chariot, and it only being repo 3, the chariot itself is usually already blocking line of sight to things behind it, the clouds don't really do much. There is a few cases where you can cloud and kind of repo to the side and have some wider line of sight blocking, but I honestly think you'll get much more bang for the buck out of the assault chariot

To me the Armoured Corps would seem like it presents the opportunity to take the best bits of both. WGK has excellent shooting, but is very fragile. JotW has excellent durability and hitting power, but no ranged game, and it requires focus investment from B3 who is frankly probably looking to use it himself.

Armoured Corps has decent shooting, hitting power, and durability, and requires no real caster input beyond SoD. Sure, it loses other things like +2 threat, or Sac Pawn, but that just means you'll be playing differently.

It's not like B3 WGK or JotW are bad, though; they're both proven lists, and they aren't going to get worse with the addition of S0. But being able to play a strong caster effectively in 3 different themes will really help increase flexibility in list pairings.

No.  Head cold last week and I am also trying to get practice on my other B3 list (Jaws).  Possibly this weekend.