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Post by crippler on Jun 28, 2018 16:58:28 GMT
Don’t forget Helynna!
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jun 29, 2018 5:10:35 GMT
I have her but not enough non character shyeel heavies to flesh out the list. I only plan to attend one big event in this format, I guess I'll have to single list the event.
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germanicus
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Post by germanicus on Jun 29, 2018 5:22:36 GMT
I've finally accepted that they're prolly not gonna bump their rat up. That's why i am basically transitioning my Ossyan list into a Issy list to increase their accuracy dramatically while only losing a little bit of punch on the feat. Like I said earlier... Blinding light+Mark target is +4 to hit... and you have a 17" threat on mark target and can put admonition on Hemera. If they try to screen with troops Hemera loves to trample since she only has one initial attack I almost always trample with her unless im trying to send her into a jack/beast. She much prefers to trample 2-3 troops and reposition into a good place to either mark a target, get in arc node range or back up to safety where she can admonition further away if needed. All good considerations and it makes Repo 3 more interesting... 'cos I had never considered trampling with her! Kind of need an obliging opponent, but I can see the potential. And since Mark Target is passive... that makes it pretty good mid-game, now I think on it (had to check it wasn't a *Action, and pleased to see it isn't given this new light). Worst case, she's got Admo and surrounded by KD'd dudes. Edit: LOL, checked on Warmachine University, interesting tidbit in trivia...
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germanicus
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Post by germanicus on Jun 29, 2018 5:24:39 GMT
I have her but not enough non character shyeel heavies to flesh out the list. I only plan to attend one big event in this format, I guess I'll have to single list the event. Think that was more directed at bluebeard since he said 'four casters'. Still, my first thought was Colossal, but she doesn't do enough for them any more to make it worth while... :/
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jun 29, 2018 13:50:08 GMT
I've finally accepted that they're prolly not gonna bump their rat up. That's why i am basically transitioning my Ossyan list into a Issy list to increase their accuracy dramatically while only losing a little bit of punch on the feat. Like I said earlier... Blinding light+Mark target is +4 to hit... and you have a 17" threat on mark target and can put admonition on Hemera. If they try to screen with troops Hemera loves to trample since she only has one initial attack I almost always trample with her unless im trying to send her into a jack/beast. She much prefers to trample 2-3 troops and reposition into a good place to either mark a target, get in arc node range or back up to safety where she can admonition further away if needed. All good considerations and it makes Repo 3 more interesting... 'cos I had never considered trampling with her! Kind of need an obliging opponent, but I can see the potential. And since Mark Target is passive... that makes it pretty good mid-game, now I think on it (had to check it wasn't a *Action, and pleased to see it isn't given this new light). Worst case, she's got Admo and surrounded by KD'd dudes. Edit: LOL, checked on Warmachine University, interesting tidbit in trivia... She loves to trample! With one initial you only have to hit two targets to make the trample focus efficient. And if you repo 3" her and aren't engaging anything then you can arc blinding light through her as well. Edit: think haley3 cloud wall... you can activate hemera first, trample through the cloud wall into haley, then activate issy, pop feat and ignore the cloud wall with all your guns and theyve got +4 to hit if you land the feat and sylys boost to hit blinding light that costs one less(which you should!).
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Post by crippler on Jun 29, 2018 14:57:02 GMT
What about Vyros 2?
What else would you run in champions?
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jun 29, 2018 15:01:02 GMT
What about Vyros 2? What else would you run in champions?
Breaking it down by theme I think the most obvious would be
Vyros2: Forges Rahn: Forges Hellynna: Forges Elara2: Defenders Issy: Defenders
Find a pairing within those that you think covers most of your bases and you're good to go. You could go a lot of ways with those combos. I do think Issy DoI with a Rahn or Vyros2 forges list would probably be the strongest.
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Post by crippler on Jun 29, 2018 15:06:20 GMT
Is Elara 2 halbediers not seeing play?
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jun 29, 2018 15:13:29 GMT
Is Elara 2 halbediers not seeing play? Sure, it is. You're opponent has likely seen it 1000 times by now and probably has a plan for it. It still does the same thing.
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bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jun 29, 2018 19:23:45 GMT
I may just be a big'ol dummy but where does it say Helynna. I only saw 4 casters on the season 8 picture.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jun 29, 2018 19:36:19 GMT
I may just be a big'ol dummy but where does it say Helynna. I only saw 4 casters on the season 8 picture. Always allows battlebox caster now.
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bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jun 29, 2018 19:45:19 GMT
I may just be a big'ol dummy but where does it say Helynna. I only saw 4 casters on the season 8 picture. Always allows battlebox caster now. ah, ok. Thanks isotope. Any chance you'll be running a champion list on advanced maneuvers soon?
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jun 29, 2018 20:11:46 GMT
Ive got issyria being painted up right now. Ill be doing a lot of CID with them hopefully, Gaston and i like to brainstorm a lot during CIDs so i feel like we will probably get together and maybe we can get a a camera going. I could look into connecting my dslr to my laptop and using OBS and streaming some CID stuff on twitch since i dont think theyd want us filming CID for the channel.
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bluebeard
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Post by bluebeard on Jun 29, 2018 21:04:59 GMT
That's something I would like to see. If you do let us know!
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jun 30, 2018 5:05:26 GMT
That's something I would like to see. If you do let us know! At a minimum we will try to do photos and written BR from both perspectives. We're probably both going to want to test Ret so ill probably play my mercs and he will play his minions as to avoid mirror matches all day.
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