Post by drakkenblut on Jun 1, 2018 19:15:18 GMT
We got a new Warlock attachment! Yes!
To think of way back in MK2, when it was officially stated that Legion will not be getting an attachment any time soon... bad old days.
Anyway, everyone is stuck on Primal Terrors, and combos with Ogrun, as if you cannot build a list outside of Themes, and Ogrun benefits can be put aside... there is an entire faction that has to not utilize a sizable portion of its benefits in all their lists (see Skornergy).
So, what can Ammok do that Succubus cannot? Here is my list:
1. At low pts games, he is a good source of upkeep removal. Legion does need that. Tack him on the battlebox instead of Succ.
2. The 2in more range on spells may be significant. Yes, Legion does have lots of ways to arc a spell (Spell Martyrs, both Vayls through Oraculi, Saeryns through Zuriel, Bethayne through Belphagor), still... what could the possibilities be? This range can be increased to 4in with help from Bonegrinders, sure that is a 9 pt investment... can it be worth it? Let's see...
2.1- Lylyth2 can, with both those extenders, Slipstream, her own innate extender and an own model charge (she has a bow blade, low Mat and P+S of 7 cannot hurt all that much) place Pin Cushion on a key heavy/huge base 31 in away- first turn! And she keeps her distance at 19in - invulnerable to retaliation, yet in range to shoot it next turn unless it moves away, so she can boost to hit and all, I believe it is a great improvement on doing it on feat turn and spending all that Fury. This way you spend just one Fury to upkeep Pin Cushion which leaves you to boost all three feat shots or dole out two Wraithbanes or what have you. I believe this is a winning combo. Now, with all that range, you may conclude that she doesn't need Ammoks two inches, but I disagree. 17in from Pincushioned target may be too close for comfort against some armies.
2.2 - pThag and Mutagenesis. with 12 in range, (up to 24 in threat) it can be actually played sometime.
3. Absylonia1 doesn't need help with upkeep, so she may consider Ammok, but I do not see some stellar advantage there.
4. Exorcist - I haven't had much trouble with Incorporeal spam, but maybe somebody can find it significant.
5. Hits better, takes hits better than Succubus.
Anyway that is what I could think up. My favorite idea is the one with Lylyth2. I will playtest it and get back to how it went in a couple of weeks time.
Feel free to add your insights.
To think of way back in MK2, when it was officially stated that Legion will not be getting an attachment any time soon... bad old days.
Anyway, everyone is stuck on Primal Terrors, and combos with Ogrun, as if you cannot build a list outside of Themes, and Ogrun benefits can be put aside... there is an entire faction that has to not utilize a sizable portion of its benefits in all their lists (see Skornergy).
So, what can Ammok do that Succubus cannot? Here is my list:
1. At low pts games, he is a good source of upkeep removal. Legion does need that. Tack him on the battlebox instead of Succ.
2. The 2in more range on spells may be significant. Yes, Legion does have lots of ways to arc a spell (Spell Martyrs, both Vayls through Oraculi, Saeryns through Zuriel, Bethayne through Belphagor), still... what could the possibilities be? This range can be increased to 4in with help from Bonegrinders, sure that is a 9 pt investment... can it be worth it? Let's see...
2.1- Lylyth2 can, with both those extenders, Slipstream, her own innate extender and an own model charge (she has a bow blade, low Mat and P+S of 7 cannot hurt all that much) place Pin Cushion on a key heavy/huge base 31 in away- first turn! And she keeps her distance at 19in - invulnerable to retaliation, yet in range to shoot it next turn unless it moves away, so she can boost to hit and all, I believe it is a great improvement on doing it on feat turn and spending all that Fury. This way you spend just one Fury to upkeep Pin Cushion which leaves you to boost all three feat shots or dole out two Wraithbanes or what have you. I believe this is a winning combo. Now, with all that range, you may conclude that she doesn't need Ammoks two inches, but I disagree. 17in from Pincushioned target may be too close for comfort against some armies.
2.2 - pThag and Mutagenesis. with 12 in range, (up to 24 in threat) it can be actually played sometime.
3. Absylonia1 doesn't need help with upkeep, so she may consider Ammok, but I do not see some stellar advantage there.
4. Exorcist - I haven't had much trouble with Incorporeal spam, but maybe somebody can find it significant.
5. Hits better, takes hits better than Succubus.
Anyway that is what I could think up. My favorite idea is the one with Lylyth2. I will playtest it and get back to how it went in a couple of weeks time.
Feel free to add your insights.
