chuggyg
Junior Strategist
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Post by chuggyg on Jun 1, 2018 12:46:14 GMT
Playing grymkin immediately makes you a huge jerk face
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Post by Cryptix on Jun 1, 2018 12:57:35 GMT
This is going to be kinda controversial but for me:
AK: 1) Irusk2. He basically replaces Atanas and can support either demo corps heavy with battle lust or a bombadier assassination with FFE, which can be hotswapped between two units. 2) Kozlov1. Here's where the controversy starts. It may not seem like it, but with Kozlov's feat its actually quite easy to get a 1-2 point lead on certain armies and then just outlast them the whole game using shocktroopers. 3) Strakhov2. I put him here because I just don't find he does anything outside personal assassination. Yes, woohoo arm 26 shocktroopers on feat...but they don't do any damage. I mean, I do like def 12 outside blessed demo corps.
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Post by hocestbellum on Jun 1, 2018 13:08:12 GMT
This is going to be kinda controversial but for me: AK: 1) Irusk2. He basically replaces Atanas and can support either demo corps heavy with battle lust or a bombadier assassination with FFE, which can be hotswapped between two units. 2) Kozlov1. Here's where the controversy starts. It may not seem like it, but with Kozlov's feat its actually quite easy to get a 1-2 point lead on certain armies and then just outlast them the whole game using shocktroopers. 3) Strakhov2. I put him here because I just don't find he does anything outside personal assassination. Yes, woohoo arm 26 shocktroopers on feat...but they don't do any damage. I mean, I do like def 12 outside blessed demo corps. Hah, I actually just came here to start typing almost exactly this! I played Kozlov through the CID, and he is so very, very solid with them. Shocktroopers, with the theme benefit, a Kovnik, and Tactical Supremacy... I played a game into Vyros2, Spread the Net. I was at the far side of the far zone in Shield Wall on turn 2. Min Demo Corps with Fury threat 13" and can one-round a heavy. ARM23 Shocks, ARM22 jacks. Loved it. Irusk2 for exactly the reasons you say, although I wouldn't run Bombardiers with him. FFE on a Strike Tanker is a beast. I'm not convinced about Strak2, though. I'm pretty sure you need a damage boost to make everything tick, and you don't want one that kills your folks. I reckon my number 3 would be Sorscha3, but at this point that's on theory alone.
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Post by kovnikninehouse on Jun 1, 2018 13:29:36 GMT
Last night I played Strakhov2 with double Shocktrooper and a unit of Demo Korps. With desparte pace and quicken I got one full unit of Shocktroopers into an Earthbreaker with Assault shots and charge attacks. I left it on 6-8 boxes. So i hot swapped Quicken over to the Demo Korps to make sure I finish it off. Withput swapping quicken i could only get 2 on it. I wanted to make sure it was dead also it got all those guys to my oppenents side of the central zone on the dumbbell senario.
What is great about Strakhov2 is I also feated on this turn so those Shocktroopers that Assaulted ended up arm 20 and the demos where arm 19 with their mini feat and all with tough. It was devastating for my oppenent. This is Strakhov2's real damage buff. His feat allows shocktroopers to Assault and still be shocktroopers. It gives you up to 12 pow 14 attacks per full shocktrooper unit.
This is why I really think Strakhov2 is arguably the best Armoueed Korps caster.
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Post by hocestbellum on Jun 1, 2018 13:55:10 GMT
Last night I played Strakhov2 with double Shocktrooper and a unit of Demo Korps. With desparte pace and quicken I got one full unit of Shocktroopers into an Earthbreaker with Assault shots and charge attacks. I left it on 6-8 boxes. So i hot swapped Quicken over to the Demo Korps to make sure I finish it off. Withput swapping quicken i could only get 2 on it. I wanted to make sure it was dead also it got all those guys to my oppenents side of the central zone on the dumbbell senario. What is great about Strakhov2 is I also feated on this turn so those Shocktroopers that Assaulted ended up arm 20 and the demos where arm 19 with their mini feat and all with tough. It was devastating for my oppenent. This is Strakhov2's real damage buff. His feat allows shocktroopers to Assault and still be shocktroopers. It gives you up to 12 pow 14 attacks per full shocktrooper unit. This is why I really think Strakhov2 is arguably the best Armoueed Korps caster. Well that's more down to stupendous dice, then; average dice your full unit would have done 30 damage, and you did 50+! Please clone your dice and distribute them to other Kommanders! But to provide a counterpoint; if you had Battle Lust or Fury, the Demo Corp unit would average 63-67 damage to that Earthbreaker on their own, leaving the Shocktroopers to do whatever they wanted.
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Post by kovnikninehouse on Jun 1, 2018 15:19:07 GMT
Sure my dice might have been a bit above average but i still had 3 to 4 more Demo Korps to make the attacks. What is important about the this play is now my oppenent cannot get into the midsle of the board or into the central zone at all and i killed the only thing that can reliably kill the Shocktroopers.
No question that battlelust is amazing but it does not send your troops screaming across the board and stay highly unkillable.
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Post by mcdermott on Jun 2, 2018 2:38:30 GMT
Last night I played Strakhov2 with double Shocktrooper and a unit of Demo Korps. With desparte pace and quicken I got one full unit of Shocktroopers into an Earthbreaker with Assault shots and charge attacks. I left it on 6-8 boxes. So i hot swapped Quicken over to the Demo Korps to make sure I finish it off. Withput swapping quicken i could only get 2 on it. I wanted to make sure it was dead also it got all those guys to my oppenents side of the central zone on the dumbbell senario. What is great about Strakhov2 is I also feated on this turn so those Shocktroopers that Assaulted ended up arm 20 and the demos where arm 19 with their mini feat and all with tough. It was devastating for my oppenent. This is Strakhov2's real damage buff. His feat allows shocktroopers to Assault and still be shocktroopers. It gives you up to 12 pow 14 attacks per full shocktrooper unit. This is why I really think Strakhov2 is arguably the best Armoueed Korps caster. Plus last stand makes mechanics somewhat contenders, mat 8 pow 11 isn't terrible for less than a point per model
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Post by Netherby on Jun 2, 2018 14:44:11 GMT
It all comes down to the fact that there are way too many casters to play more than a hand full of them even semi-regularly. So, you're all horribly biased towards the ones you have a bunch of table time with... It also helps that you will likely do better with a caster you're familiar with even if they are sub optimal for the theme, further reinforcing the bias!
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