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Post by Netherby on Jul 11, 2018 10:44:20 GMT
I mean, it's pretty hard to block LoS to and from a huge base with only 6 models and if you position so that killing 1 or 2 doesn't open LoS then it's even harder... Especially when the huge model ignores terrains for the most part. Using an obstruction of some kind to anchor the formation could work...
Otherwise there are always Kodiak clouds? I think you're worried too much about the shooting. Even with two of them they are only getting out and average of 6 attacks which fail to one shot a model on average rolls. That means even under feat they are looking at killing 3-4 models with the shooting. Yeah it sucks, but if they committed both you probably get to kill both next turn... And if you had Bond of Bros up then they will kill hardly any...
An interesting interaction is Retaliatory Strike and impact attacks. You kind of want to position to mitigate the number of impacts, because they are only down 6 under feat and every point of damage makes it easier to kill an extra model. But each model hit by the impact gets to make a retaliatory strike, which happens BEFORE it makes it charge attack or gets to spend any rage tokens. While if you did them in reaction to a regular/bought attack you would be feeding it more rage tokens...
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Post by chuggyg on Jul 11, 2018 13:51:36 GMT
My OW2 in wolves of winter tears through animantarax. Between windstorm and wind ravager, they can't shoot at all, which considerably lowers their damage output. Between curse of shadows and kiss of lylyss you can kill them at range if they don't commit to melee. If they're running a list that doesn't bring extollers you can blind them.
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Post by Netherby on Jul 12, 2018 6:06:01 GMT
What are you killing them at range with in a Wolves list?
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Post by chuggyg on Jul 12, 2018 17:14:47 GMT
Decimator and Ragers, if they wander in 14" (which they sort of have to, as their gun range is down to 7), will fire at them with effective pow 15/17/19/21. Ternion sprays can go up to pow 12/14/16/18. The top number for each counts dark shroud from ragman, which only will happen in a fantasy world, but pow 19/16 are more reasonable and the sprays aren't bothered by the krea bubble. There's been an occasion where I had to trade Fenris for them at the end, but that's what he's there for.
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Post by Mr.Human on Jul 17, 2018 10:46:19 GMT
Karchev was decent against it the one time I played against double turtles, but ended up loosing to scenario because horrible/spiked dice and bad luck into those defensive strikes. Didn't quite anticipate loosing jacks to shooting the way I did...
A second go would surely meant a better game imo.
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Post by Havock on Jul 17, 2018 11:14:18 GMT
I've only played into it once, Zerkova LoS can play into it quite well. Either by plonking down clouds, a feat that takes away half their output or throwing clouds on the turtles when they are stuck in.
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