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Post by wolfchild on Feb 9, 2018 10:48:15 GMT
Here’s the list:
Theme: The Devourer's Host
Krueger the Stormlord - WB: +27
- Warpwolf Stalker - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Gorax Rager - PC: 7 (Battlegroup Points Used: 7)
Tharn Ravager Shaman - PC: 0
Bloodweaver Night Witch - PC: 4
Tharn Wolf Rider Champion - PC: 8
Tharn Ravagers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 16
- Tharn Ravager Chieftain - PC: 0
Tharn Ravagers - Leader & 3 Grunts: 11
- Tharn Ravager Chieftain - PC: 0
Tharn Bloodweavers - Leader & 5 Grunts: 8
Tharn Bloodtrackers - Leader & 9 Grunts: 16
Tharn Wolf Riders - Leader & 2 Grunts: 11
I see most folk using Dev.Host have got multiple entries of units and bring Death wolves.
- Do I need the multiples to avoid giving away my plans/for redundancy?
- Can Dev Host work without the Death Wolves?
- How do u deal with armour? I’m really not sure how to deal with armour in this list without pushing up and risking my Stalker.
- Considered swapping Night witch for Whitemane since I’m a point short of 75 and it’d mean 9 hearts.
This feels like a really bad drop into high def, high arm, lots of shooting.
Is that just Dev Host, or just due to the holes in my list?
Other models available are:
2 more wolf riders
Lord of the Feast
Nuala
Whitemane
Gallows grove
2x shifting stones
plus living beasts
Please advise
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Post by goodjazz on Feb 9, 2018 13:51:58 GMT
I have played a simmilar list a couple of times. I run 3 heavys though and less infantry. But still I am kind of afraight of high arm. Since I run a Whitemane instead of the Night Witch, high def is not that bad imho (Ravengers mat 8 and the UA even mat 9). Against beasts/jacks you can also use TK to turn them around. I found that I need a gallows groove to deliver with krueger. Shooting can be helped with windstorm, but definately your outstanding matchup is against meele infantry. In general I feel like krueger2 in DH is nice, but not outstanding. There are definately better options in circle if you want to win tournaments. I personally really enjoy the playstyle and am convinced that you can do ok with it. But it definately has bad matchups* and needs a pair that covers a lot. I will try to go with Krueger2 DH/Kaya3 CotW since kaya covers shooting, def and arm skew, but stumbles into masses of infantry. This is just the opinion of a not so experienced player, so be cautious.  *in addition to what you have said already it struggles with everything that denies the ravengers from getting corpstokens. Just to name a few: -madrak - champoins don't die easyly -the harbinger of menoth - martyrdom -stuff that brings no infantry in the first place -etc... |
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Post by Nahualli on Feb 9, 2018 17:28:05 GMT
I have played several games with DH,but I am not a pro, so don't take my word too seriously. Here are my opinions:
* Krueger2 does not provide a power buff, so your plan requires going for stalling the game and winning by scenario. In this case, double Ravagers and double Shamans perform really well.
* My favorite solos have been the night witches. White mane is optional for me, I give priority to the Death Wolves, they help a lot for contesting purposes. The wolf rider solo never finds a place in my lists. Use it if you enjoy it of course, but I can't find enough reasons to have her when you can have the minion cauldron and a witch for almost the same cost.
* Death wolves are not mandatory, but on this theme they do a lot of work and always justify their existence in every game. Highly recommended.
* I am more inclined to a limited battlegroup unless I use Una2. With her, I try to have a mix of half & half between griffins and tharn. You will need to get used to divide the opponents army in effective jams so the Stalker and Krueger can take out the high armor targets.
* The cauldron has become a must include for me, the sinergy and utility it provides is incredible.
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Post by wolfchild on Feb 9, 2018 23:58:15 GMT
Only have Kueger2, Kromac1 and Kaya1 to use, can sub Tharn Wolfrider champ as Kaya3 or Una1 as 2, but otherwise stuck for casters.
Definitely wanna pick up Death Wolves when I get chance n funds again (wasted last drop on Bloodpack, very hopeful advance purchase b4 CID).
Any suggestions if I drop Wolfrider champ n a unit?
Options are those I listed before or my stable of beasts:
Feral, Ghetorix, Pureblood, (Loki), Scarsfel, Razorwing, 2x Wild Argus
Trying to make something work out my current options.
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Post by Nahualli on Feb 10, 2018 19:40:49 GMT
I would try Kromac1 for a bit. The stalker is very happy with him, and you get to have a unit of Ravagers with the armor buff. Bestial allows you to keep the opponent caster away while you press for scenario control.
I have used him on my last steamrollers, and was happy with him. I had my trouble match-ups of course, but I had fun.
The tharn worlf riders are a matter of play style in my opinion. Just remember that they are squishy, don't use them to jam. Flank hard and force your opponent to chase you while you score points in the other side.
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Post by wolfchild on Feb 11, 2018 0:26:45 GMT
My issue here is although I have Kromac1, I’ve used him almost exclusively since the start of MkII.
I was running the Tharn theme under him before there was one.
Kromac1 and the Stalker are a heavenly match tho......
Loads of folk seemed to be super excited about Kreuger2 in both Bones and DH, but I’ve only read folk advocating Kromac1 in Bones until now. Is that just down to my available models? Certainly Kreuger2 loves Geomancy in Bones.
I’m even tempted to try using my Una1 as 2 and proxy my Argii as Scarsfells, but I’d still only have 4 griffons, which I don’t think is enough.
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