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Post by lovehugs on Jan 30, 2018 2:20:51 GMT
On War Room I was just browsing a few Merc options and the rule for Maker's Mark seems very specifically targeted towards Crucible Guard battlegroup controllers and not just Llaelese.
Is there any crucible guard in the game at this point in any army? Like some Cygnar solo jack marshal?
I'm just a bit confused as to why this rule exists right now, I get that CG is coming as a faction, but I only own a Merc and Khador deck so I'm not sure if they exist anywhere else as of right now.
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Post by bacon on Jan 30, 2018 4:16:26 GMT
As far as I'm aware, no there aren't any yet, they are just future proofing.
Helga the conqueror had veteran leader [Farrow valkyries] long before pp released any info on them.
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Post by greytemplar on Jan 30, 2018 5:07:15 GMT
There are no Crucible Guard yet. However they are a new faction which will be getting released in the near future. Some images of the models have already been spoiled. The rule is explicitly for when the faction itself gets released.
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gmonkey
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Post by gmonkey on Jan 30, 2018 14:05:30 GMT
I just spent some time looking through mercs. What's the rule? I couldn't find it.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 30, 2018 14:11:52 GMT
I just spent some time looking through mercs. What's the rule? I couldn't find it. The rule is called 'Makers Mark', it states that the Vanguard can be taken in Crucible Guard battlegroups, and counts as a Crucible Guard model, rather than a Mercenary one. It is effectively the 'Partisan' rule, but for a Warjack. The Vanguard is currently the only model to have this rule. |
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Jan 30, 2018 16:30:16 GMT
Rumors are that Gorman will gain Partisan: Crucible Guard and if I remember correctly, Hutchuck was trained by them, but left them because of stuff that happened. Not sure he will come back to them because of it.
EDIT: Fluff-wise, I'm pretty sure the Vanguard is produced by the Crucible Guard; makes sense they would gain access to it.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 30, 2018 16:35:33 GMT
Rumors are that Gorman will gain Partisan: Crucible Guard and if I remember correctly, Hutchuck was trained by them, but left them because of stuff that happened. Not sure he will come back to them because of it. EDIT: Fluff-wise, I'm pretty sure the Vanguard is produced by the Crucible Guard; makes sense they would gain access to it. I would expect to see a Gorman 2 who is a straight Crucible model, to represent Gorman returning back to his old order, and Gorman 1 remaining the Rogue Alchemist |
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Post by greytemplar on Jan 30, 2018 16:42:30 GMT
EDIT: Fluff-wise, I'm pretty sure the Vanguard is produced by the Crucible Guard; makes sense they would gain access to it. Yes. Sort of. The Vanguard is the result of a number of Llaelese warjack designs that were abandoned and turned over to the Order of the Golden Crucible. Quite a number of Vanguards were produced, but they are largely mothballed in storage in Llael other than the few which were captured by the Resistance or smuggled out and stolen by mercenaries. My guess is the fluff on the Crucible Guard will say the Order has managed to secure some new production facilities elsewhere and begun making Vanguards again. But currently Vanguards are not actually in production. |
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Post by gmonkey on Jan 30, 2018 17:48:53 GMT
I just spent some time looking through mercs. What's the rule? I couldn't find it. The rule is called 'Makers Mark', it states that the Vanguard can be taken in Crucible Guard battlegroups, and counts as a Crucible Guard model, rather than a Mercenary one. It is effectively the 'Partisan' rule, but for a Warjack. The Vanguard is currently the only model to have this rule. Aha. On the Vanguard. I hadn't looked there. Thanks. |
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Post by shoe on Jan 31, 2018 20:01:12 GMT
Rumors are that Gorman will gain Partisan: Crucible Guard and if I remember correctly, Hutchuck was trained by them, but left them because of stuff that happened. Not sure he will come back to them because of it. EDIT: Fluff-wise, I'm pretty sure the Vanguard is produced by the Crucible Guard; makes sense they would gain access to it. I would expect to see a Gorman 2 who is a straight Crucible model, to represent Gorman returning back to his old order, and Gorman 1 remaining the Rogue Alchemist i do not expect to see gorman2 ever. |
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Jan 31, 2018 20:58:30 GMT
I would expect to see a Gorman 2 who is a straight Crucible model, to represent Gorman returning back to his old order, and Gorman 1 remaining the Rogue Alchemist i do not expect to see gorman2 ever. Why? |
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Post by germanicus on Jan 31, 2018 21:10:29 GMT
i do not expect to see gorman2 ever. I'm with the curvy CygnarGuy...: any particular reason why you hold that expectation? With CG coming out at some point, it would be perfectly reasonable to have his gameplay design bring a different battlefield focus and while there are few second incarnations of solos (whether from or to), there's no valid reason for there not to be more... hell, there's no reason for him not to get a couple CG buddies and become a character unit... |
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Post by Choco on Jan 31, 2018 21:17:47 GMT
The more and more I read the title of this thread, the more and more I wish my Vanguards were filled with Maker's Mark while I'm at an event.
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gmonkey
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Post by gmonkey on Jan 31, 2018 21:21:23 GMT
Sounds like the best conversion project ever.
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Post by shoe on Jan 31, 2018 21:44:41 GMT
i do not expect to see gorman2 ever. Why? pattern recognition the number of solos that have received a second version that were not journeyman war-casters in the first place can be counted on one finger |
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