What is strictly better, give your vs. and reasons

A gorax tops out at pow 14. A feral tops out at pow 19.

Vs an arm 20 model 2 goraxes with free charges and primal will do round about 27 damage, a feral will do around about 44 or so.

Without primal the goraxes will do about 15, the feral will do about 30.

Assuming you’re playing in cotw it’s a lot more awkward to primal goraxes and they do have much worse defensive stats but they are cheaper. They’re also lower mat. Their damage starts to drop off much quicker once you go past arm 20. I do think the gorax is an underrated fighting light, especially with Kaya3 because we have seen them in the support role for so long, but in terms of what you would want to bring a Feral for I don’t think they compare.

Also, the Gorax is probably priced appropriately for the game, the Feral is about 2pts past the bar (as per all mk3 living beasts that haven’t been fixed by CID).

The goraxes will also take a tonne more chip on the way in from shooting. 14/18 (sometimes higher with defensive spells or terrain) are good stats and get you away from a lot of guns, 

Edit: Can't do maths. Shouldn't do maths. Don't play Goraxes as heavy killers unless you have Synergy or some other Str Buff. 

Comparing the damage output of two light warbeasts to a Feral Warpwolf is, frankly, absurd. With no outside assistance other than the warlock caster Primal on them (which I only partially count since the Feral supplies the buff itself) a Feral will reliably destroy all but the most durable opponents (colossals, clam-jacks, and ARM 21 shield heavies).

Gorax Ragers and Scarsfell Griffons are good models with their own advantages, but their damage output does not compare to a heavy warbeast (unless you're using Scarsfells with 2na, but that's a special case).

@'maplewhisky : How are you getting 40 damage against ARM 20 with two Ragers? The best I can do is around 26 unless you start pulling in other buffs.

A scars fell with primal and a standard +2 pow buff that most of our casters can achieve does about 17-20 Damage to an arm 20 Heavy. (Boosting the bought attacks damage roll) so 2 of them should scrap the average Khador jack. Then you can make them Def 15 and dodge which is kind of amazing defensively.

I think you can compare a heavies dps to its equivalent points in lights. As long as you don’t discount the rest of the stats and abilities they each have.

The fact is, when you rely on primal as your mainstay buff for living beasts, lights just take it better. It’s not a big deal to lose a light or 2 for a round, but it’s a problem when you lose an 16+ Point Heavy for an entire round.

As I said, my thoughts do troll me quite a bit, but i was thinking of if/when I acquire the Kromac2 army box and if having the 2 Gorax over the 1 Feral is a solid idea or if it is just another mistake. I have used a blessed Gorax to apply some beats to a Cygnar Jack that was def 18 Arm 24 (through buffs) and took it down to 3 boxes.

But anyone else have a Strictly better comparison and why?

Well, my build for possible March purchases will be tanith, in Wild Hunt, with 2 wardens 2 Wyrds Reeves Skinwalkers and Loki with Hutchuck that feels kinda crazy

Sadly, he has a death wish and I keep forgetting to ambush him at the start of the turn...Still don't quite understand ambush

Ambush is really hard to get right. It took me a lot of using hutchuck before I really got a feel for it and sadly there is no real formula for when to and when not to ambush.

The best way to remember to ambush him is to put him on a table side by the clock or turn dice (somewhere you will be looking a lot) roughly midfield. Make sure he is very visible and close to the table edge. Or keep him right by your dice and tokens. That's what I do to remember my ambushing models.