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Post by Cryptix on May 9, 2017 13:06:01 GMT
I have not tried that yet! My list for her so far has been: OW Scrappy Juggernaut Behemoth Maurader Black Dragon with CA IFK Manhunter x2 Yuri Widowmaker marksman This list played like a Butcher 3 list, with the idea to deliver Old Witch to the enemy caster/lock! It worked rather well for me, though part of that was because it was sometimes hard to see coming. If she managed to get a few souls (I think the record so far in mark 3 is 10, making her start with 17 focus next turn), then there isn't really a spot on the board that an opposing caster can hide!
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Post by wendan on May 9, 2017 13:51:17 GMT
Yeah, it's kind of like that. Doesn't do as much damage against cryx (unless they bring living), but damn is it deadly against dude heavy armies.
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Post by jonnyboy on May 9, 2017 16:29:08 GMT
Sacrificial mechanics anyone? On the turn before you assassinate, throw down MoC, start the next turn with 11 focus!
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Post by wendan on May 9, 2017 16:29:45 GMT
You only get enemy souls I'm afraid. No friendly.
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Post by benjamini on May 9, 2017 18:03:05 GMT
Might mess around with shock troopers or black dragons sometime! Those lists look cool!
In contrast, I've been running her quite a bit with Doom Reavers of all things lately. Partially because, I've never really been huge on IFP especially since mk III dropped (though I do want to give them a fair shake at some point now that LOS is out).
I find that having AD weapon masters is usually enough to punish someone leaving a heavy far forward if I am going second once you factor in the possibility of gallows. It's still not an amazing spell, but in this case even if they don't get dragged far enough... you're usually not in too bad a position turn 1 with the blown focus (I swear I roll 1's 80% of the time though). Murder of crows can be used in a pinch to block line of sight to the doomies, as can ternion blizzarded widowmakers. I certainly wouldn't run it into a gun line, but I've been having a lot of success with something like this:
(Old Witch 1) The Old Witch of Khador [+18] - Kodiak [13] - Kodiak [13] - Ruin [17] Kell Bailoch [5] Widowmaker Marksman [4] Doom Reaver Swordsmen [13] Doom Reaver Swordsmen [13] Greylord Ternion [7] Widowmaker Scouts [8]
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Post by jonnyboy on May 9, 2017 19:46:01 GMT
What is AD a reference to? Area denial?
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Post by benjamini on May 9, 2017 19:50:20 GMT
Advance Deploy, sorry!
Though Doom Reavers certainly can act as area denial
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Post by Netherby on May 9, 2017 22:41:12 GMT
I would be interested to hear reports of running with MoWs, but I personally feel they are too slow for her. Her buffs are good on them, but she really benefits from having a more mobile army.
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Post by HereComesTomorrow on May 9, 2017 23:31:34 GMT
I would be interested to hear reports of running with MoWs, but I personally feel they are too slow for her. Her buffs are good on them, but she really benefits from having a more mobile army. @ I feel the same. Black Dragons are good though, they were in my Mk2 list. Her feat is good for getting them set up in a zone for Shield Wall + Iron Zeal which was obnoxious combined with old Iron Flesh.
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Post by cap7n on May 11, 2017 19:30:02 GMT
I would be interested to hear reports of running with MoWs, but I personally feel they are too slow for her. Her buffs are good on them, but she really benefits from having a more mobile army. [b7r] Played her a few times this weekend. Went 3-1 vs x2 trolls, circle, and lose to khador. Over all find her kit just fine for MoW. Cloud for vision denial, pathfinder, and iron flesh. War Room Army Khador - ow Theme: No Theme Selected 75 / 75 Army The Old Witch of Khador - WJ: +18 - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker - PC: 4 - Scrapjack - Behemoth - PC: 25 (Battlegroup Points Used: 18) Man-O-War Kovnik - PC: 5 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 4 Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios - PC: 7 Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich - PC: 4 Winter Guard Rifle Corps - Leader & 5 Grunts: 8 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 Greylord Ternion - Leader & 2 Grunts: 7 Man-O-War Shocktroopers - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16 - Man-O-War Shocktrooper Officer - PC: 4 Battle Mechaniks - Leader & 3 Grunts: 3 --- GENERATED : 05/11/2017 15:26:11 BUILD ID : 2039.17-03-16
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 13:04:25 GMT
You lot have convinced me to give Shockies a try with her once I am done messing around with Malakov lists.
Cap7n: How did you find that list worked into armour?
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Post by cap7n on May 12, 2017 17:24:39 GMT
Didn't have to much problem with armor. Behemoth AP fist help a bunch, but if you are worried, Ragman can help a lot in conjuncture with schockies. Drop Joe for him.
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Post by benjamini on May 12, 2017 17:59:11 GMT
I'm excited to see what happens! I think I'm going to miss my doomies though
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Post by wendan on May 12, 2017 19:20:55 GMT
I'm also tempted to drop shockies with her. I might put some of those, and some AK's, along with support and see what happens.
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Post by Netherby on May 12, 2017 22:01:52 GMT
I just think you're better off spending the points on Uhlans instead
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