Choco
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Gorten, best feet in the game.
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Post by Choco on Jan 10, 2018 21:14:18 GMT
Is it worth it to play out of theme?
The more I ask this question of myself, the more and more I feel (in Mercs specifically) we have no reason to play out of theme.
Ogrun Bokur and Swamp Gobber River Raiders are the only models not allowed in Irregulars.
Our Character warjacks have no reason to be with any other caster besides the one they have a bond with (outside of Gallant with Magnus2 for Bullet Dodger?).
And finally, you get free stuff in themes and sometimes that free stuff is really good (Eiryss anybody).
I'm not sure I can convince myself there is any reason to not play in a theme. Have any of you thought about this?
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jan 10, 2018 21:49:40 GMT
While I do miss fielding Gallant with Magnus2 in now way is it worth it given the benefits of irregulars to Magnus. I do feel at some point PP will have to address the Character jacks in themes issue because it really sucks never being able to play all the coolest looking, most valuable jacks in a lot of lists.
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shoe
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Post by shoe on Jan 10, 2018 22:16:17 GMT
sometimes u need river raiders and rocinante in ur contance blaze list so it has enough guns and u can use the feat to deliver the river raiders
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Post by gedditoffme on Jan 11, 2018 10:52:20 GMT
sometimes u need river raiders and rocinante in ur contance blaze list so it has enough guns and u can use the feat to deliver the river raiders Very true for top level play, but most casuals would not need to play such an op unthemed list |
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Post by mikethefish on Jan 11, 2018 12:48:57 GMT
Irregulars killed any incentive to play out of theme. All non-theme combos (ie- Magnus with Gallant, etc) are outshined by the stuff Irregulars gives you.
That's pretty much the way it is now
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Post by eterenal on Jan 11, 2018 14:11:51 GMT
/thread
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Xintas
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Post by Xintas on Jan 11, 2018 14:55:16 GMT
I tried to make a list after irregulars was released that was built specifically around the models that were not allowed and take advantage of their best features in order to answer this question for myself. I got nothing that I felt outshone upwards of 25 points in free solos.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jan 11, 2018 16:14:53 GMT
I tried to make a list after irregulars was released that was built specifically around the models that were not allowed and take advantage of their best features in order to answer this question for myself. I got nothing that I felt outshone upwards of 25 points in free solos. I did this with my Ret stuff. I've played it on game nights and it's actually not half bad. It can't handle dude swarms that well but other than that it has some serious firepower. I call it "all the kings horses" because it's all 4 character heavies. Even though it's not in theme the "thematic" story I have for the list is that Helynna ( who is a mechanic) is at the VIP workshop fixing up her fellow warcasters' character jacks/AFG when it comes under siege. Her kit really works well with 2 arc nodes, shoot and scoot and a strong battlegroup for HoD. Retribution Army - 75 / 75 points (Helynna 1) Magister Helynna [+30] - Discordia [18] - Hemera [16] - Hypnos [18] - Imperatus [22] - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker [4] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Arcanist Mechanik [2] Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress [4] Arcantrik Force Generator [17] |
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Xintas
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Post by Xintas on Jan 11, 2018 17:54:15 GMT
My wife actually does the same kinda thing. She plays 2 units of sentinels aided by 2 artifcers, and it makes removing them before they get up field a real pain. The list also frequently has Imperatus, which gives me the choice of trying to remove sentinels or that, all while being peppered with shots from the AFG and a couple manticores.
Its probably the best "non theme" list I have played into, but I might be biased.
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Munindk
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Post by Munindk on Jan 12, 2018 7:06:55 GMT
I was gonna say Gorten and super friends, but thats plays fine in Irregulars, you just dont get more than 1-2 free solos.
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