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Post by krawat on Mar 7, 2017 10:14:03 GMT
Hi, I played Mercs so far (1 year now) but I always had a knack for undead pirates. I am preparing for small introductory tournament - 35 pts in 3 weeks and would like to get some advice on my lists. 1) Denny 1 Ghost Fleet - Yaaaarrrrr Denny 1 Nightmare - 18 Nightwretch - 7 Nightwretch - 7 Rev. Crew small - 9 Rifleman x1 - 2 Rev. Crew small - 9 Rifleman x1 - 2 Rev. Crew small - 9 Capt. Rengrave The idea is to make my opponent get bored with killing all those undead pirates and win on scenario . Nightmare is cool and can managed to kill big guys with prey and dennys debuffs. 2) Witch Coven mishmash With Cover + FunBall Barathrum - 15 Stalker - 8 Deathripper - 8 Bane Warriors small - 10 Satyxis Raiders + Witch - 19 I got 3 points left. The idea is to jam early with satyxis and feat and use occultation to deliver Banes. Really need some help with 2nd one . K.
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Post by ProdigalMage on Mar 7, 2017 14:38:46 GMT
Deathrippers are 6 points. If you can get 6 points free I'd suggest a command attachment for your minimum bane unit.
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Post by schostoppa1 on Mar 7, 2017 16:11:46 GMT
At that point level there will be very few answers to incorporeal models. So i would suggest a Machine wraith with a soul trapper With only a couple jacks on the board the value of the wraith goes up as the opponant can afford less shenanigans with his jacks. They can also contest senarios while the test of your army does work. It can also help protect your stalker if you pair them together. Enemy jacks are less likely to try and engage of the wraith is near. the soul trapper is just there to deny enemies from gathering friendly souls, a point fill, and the attack that kills it means that attack didnt kill a bane or witch. which is vastly more valuable.
For that Theme list i would argue youd be better off removing that 3rd min squad in favor of maxing out rifle attachments and a machine wraith. You only loose 2 shots and gain 4 Assassination/solo removal shots. It would also increase the staying power of the 2 squads as they are. My earlier arguement earlier of lower points equals higher model value would have you seeing hige dividends if you can safely take out support pieces.
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Post by krawat on Mar 7, 2017 20:01:02 GMT
I got this new crazy idea Skarre 1 Inflictor 13 Stalker 8 Defiler 8 Blackbane Ghosts full 17 Wraith Engine 15 Machine Wraith Under Skarre feat Blackbanes are really cool and for 35 pts its really nasty amount of incorporeal models. K.
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Post by schostoppa1 on Mar 7, 2017 23:46:29 GMT
For that skarre list you may want to try dropping the defiler. Backlash is pretty much a gimmick for models that dont have feedback naturally. hellfire and bloodrain will be situational at best. I think you could have some success in running the skarlock, (2) sets of scrap thralls and either a second machine wraith or a necrotech to keep the inflictor healed up. With the skarlock and scrap thrall boat pSkarre can gain 1d6 focus every turn with no focus investment from herself. Really handy when you need to load up the inflictor and stalker on feat turn and still cast dark guidence. Any left over she can camp or heal he feat damage in later turns.
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Post by sircas on Mar 8, 2017 1:07:52 GMT
I second dropping one min revenants for more rifles and machine wraiths.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Mar 8, 2017 10:34:56 GMT
Putting a single rifle in a unit is basically downplaying their strengths as you can't CRA. Every unit should always have at least 2, so I second the notion to drop the third unit in favour of more guns and Incorporeal models. Downgrading the Nightwretches to Deathrippers can also net you some more points.
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Post by krawat on Mar 8, 2017 11:30:33 GMT
I reworked the lists a little. Thx for feedback.
Denny 1
Nightmare Nightwretch Deathripper
Revenant crew small + 3x Rifle Revenant crew small + 3x Rifle Rengrave Machine Wraith
and for Skarre1 I have a problem that with 35 points I have just 3 points spare when I take wraith engine and blackbanes. So i may drop Arcnode and take 2nd stalker
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Post by schostoppa1 on Mar 8, 2017 13:49:10 GMT
Double stalkers ks fun with skarre1. You should playtest the double stalkers list and then the focus effecient boat i suggested. I personally feel focus starved with skarre 90% of the time if i dont bring the skarlock. And at this point level its hard to add in war witch sirens to help.
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Post by juicedbuddha on Mar 10, 2017 18:31:39 GMT
I have to agree with the idea of more stalkers with Skarre1. I have ran her with 6 stalkers at 75 points and it works.
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