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Post by bskhacker on Apr 27, 2018 13:14:20 GMT
Now that that is all squared away. What you guys think the church is gonna do. Besides make a really good terrain piece I suspect it's gonna be a Covenant wannabe - maybe with better coverage area, but stationary. My prediction is it will have a gun like the vessel with 3 *actions. *Action 1 gives exemplar models in cmd aegis *Action 2 bring back d3 knights exemplars *Action 3 some kind of other defensive buff for one unit.
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Post by macdaddy on Apr 27, 2018 13:29:25 GMT
Church:
SPD0 STR0 MAT0 RAT6 DEF5 ARM20 CMD10 35 Boxes Gunfighter, Immunity Fire,
Weapons: Wrath of the Creator RNG14 RoF1 AOE4 POW15 magical, blessed, Fire, Cont Fire
Distant Deployment (6") Power Of Faith When a FF model is destroyed or removed from play while within this models command range, for one round this models attack and damage rolls are fully boosted. In addition this models weapon may make an additional attack during its next activation.
Inspiring Presence: Living FF Models in this Models command range gain tough
Wonders of the Creator: This model may use each of the following abilities once per turn. -Urcaens Gate: Return D3 Living models to an FF unit within this models command range. These models must forfeit their combat action if they activate this turn. -Holy Radiance: This model gains Awe for one round -Will of the Creator: Choose an ff model/unit within this models command range, for one round, affected model/units gain +2 to attack rolls
Or we can just let it sit out and have bake sales and hand out "Menoth wants YOU!...(mankind only)" flyers
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 27, 2018 13:32:58 GMT
Church: SPD0 STR0 MAT0 RAT6 DEF5 ARM20 CMD10 35 Boxes Gunfighter, Immunity Fire, Weapons: Wrath of the Creator RNG14 RoF1 AOE4 POW15 magical, blessed, Fire, Cont Fire Distant Deployment (6") Power Of Faith When a FF model is destroyed or removed from play while within this models command range, for one round this models attack and damage rolls are fully boosted. In addition this models weapon may make an additional attack during its next activation. Inspiring Presence: Living FF Models in this Models command range gain tough Wonders of the Creator: This model may use each of the following abilities once per turn. -Urcaens Gate: Return D3 Living models to an FF unit within this models command range. These models must forfeit their combat action if they activate this turn. -Holy Radiance: This model gains Awe for one round -Will of the Creator: Choose an ff model/unit within this models command range, for one round, affected model/units gain +2 to attack rolls Or we can just let it sit out and have bake sales and hand out "Menoth wants YOU!...(mankind only)" flyers What sort of point cost were you thinking? Also is the intention to let it use all 3 abilities each turn? not sure if that is a typo or not
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Post by W0lfBane on Apr 27, 2018 13:39:29 GMT
If only we had a theme centered around the concept of protecting temples.
This would fit right in.
If its cheaper than the battle engine And has similar capabilities I might seriously consider it
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Post by macdaddy on Apr 27, 2018 13:39:50 GMT
36cygnar24guy36 yeah intention is to use all 3 in one turn if you really feel like it. I am thinking, at that stat-line 20ish points? I am fairly confident that that rule-set is busted, but its a random speculation so why not right? Also all its abilities will be 100% used every time it can, so I am sure if it were to actually go on the tabletop you would have to replace 1 or 2 of them with more situational abilities.
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Post by Provengreil on Apr 27, 2018 13:41:18 GMT
Who wants to bet it turns off fire immunity but can only be taken with exemplars?
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Post by W0lfBane on Apr 27, 2018 13:45:23 GMT
Who wants to bet it turns off fire immunity but can only be taken with exemplars? Booooooooooo. That would be lame
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Apr 27, 2018 13:45:35 GMT
36cygnar24guy36 yeah intention is to use all 3 in one turn if you really feel like it. I am thinking, at that stat-line 20ish points? I am fairly confident that that rule-set is busted, but its a random speculation so why not right? Also all its abilities will be 100% used every time it can, so I am sure if it were to actually go on the tabletop you would have to replace 1 or 2 of them with more situational abilities. I mean there would be no reason not to use all 3 each turn, if it does have miracle type effects then it would probably have to choose just one, or take damage to use them, but that makes it a bit too similar to the Vessel of Judgement, it will be interesting to see how they differentiate it from the Vessel, as they are both in the same theme it wold be a shame if they were functionally similar.
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Post by W0lfBane on Apr 27, 2018 13:46:44 GMT
What I would ideally want is healing, protective aura, absolutely no reinforcements rule cause I'm tired of that rule, a decent gun and on the cheap side
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Post by macdaddy on Apr 27, 2018 14:06:45 GMT
What I would ideally want is healing, protective aura, absolutely no reinforcements rule cause I'm tired of that rule, a decent gun and on the cheap side Protective aura would be nice, but I doubt it will have it. Only 2 other models in the game have that ability. Now something like a range 10 decel (like the wraith engine) for ranged attacks and spells would be nice! I think it will have a boostable gun (hopefully boostable anyway...) and miracles. I expect it to be pretty darn similar to the vessel. I also want it (AND ALL OTHER SCRUATOR MODELS!) to count for free points in EI. What price range were you thinking? I was thinking more expensive but lots of abilities instead of cheap.
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Post by Hashmal on Apr 27, 2018 14:43:41 GMT
The problem with what you posted is that it affects only 25" up the board if you go first and assuming EI stays the way it is. That's not amazing for a mostly melee force that wants to get past that point. You will be leaving it behind a lot.
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Post by paradox on Apr 27, 2018 14:52:39 GMT
Im hesitant to speculate much. It can lead to disappointment. But Id be especially cautious about this piece being directly offensive. Im not sure we'll get more or less a stationary VoJ. Id expect a church to have defensive miracles though.
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Post by macdaddy on Apr 27, 2018 14:53:56 GMT
Im hesitant to speculate much. It can lead to disappointment. But Id be especially cautious about this piece being directly offensive. Im not sure we'll get more or less a stationary VoJ. Id expect a church to have defensive miracles though. I really hope it has some sort of gun/offensive spell. If it just sits there and hands out buffs, it will need to hand out some really really strong buffs to be worth it.
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Post by W0lfBane on Apr 27, 2018 14:57:04 GMT
If it has no miracles and is just buffs then I would want it around 12 points. If it has a good gun. I would want it around 16
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Post by macdaddy on Apr 27, 2018 15:02:13 GMT
If it has no miracles and is just buffs then I would want it around 12 points. If it has a good gun. I would want it around 16 12 Points for a buff bot is ok. the issue is, how durable would be acceptable at that point value
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