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Post by trout on Dec 4, 2017 16:51:47 GMT
Looking for some veteran guidance here. I feel that this list may be too “general”; it does a little bit of everything but excels at nothing so I’m struggling to find a partner for it as I feel my offlist has to cover a lot. My thinking right now is Doomy3 in Power of Dhunia (another all ‘rounder) or Gunny1 to cover shooting weakness.
Is this just hot garbage?
War Room Army
Trollblood - Mad1 SotN
Theme: Storm of the North
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Fuel Cache - Steamroller Objective
Madrak Ironhide, Thornwood Chieftain - WB: +29
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0
- Rök - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19)
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0
Trollkin Champion Hero - PC: 5
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Northkin Elder - PC: 3
Northkin Bear Handler & Battle Bears - Bear Handler & 2 Battle Bears: 10
Northkin Bear Handler & Battle Bears - Bear Handler & 2 Battle Bears: 10
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 0
- Trollkin Sorcerer - PC: 3
Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 16
- Trollkin Sorcerer - PC: 3
THEME: Storm of the North
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GENERATED : 12/04/2017 09:51:23
BUILD ID : 2055.17-11-21
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Post by elricaltovilla on Dec 4, 2017 17:33:21 GMT
I don't know about the champion hero, but other than that I think your list looks very solid. Personally I'd prefer another fell caller.
I'd also think about trading the bouncer for an Axer, rush on Rok will get you a lot of threat with him that he needs.
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Post by trout on Dec 4, 2017 18:02:21 GMT
Thanks!! I like the Axer thought. I have been going back and forther between the Champ and second Fell Caller. Additional spray Pathfinder and +Mat is definitely worthwhile. Retaliation on P+S 14 weaponmasters just seems so good. Probably a better with the FC though...
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Post by elricaltovilla on Dec 4, 2017 18:52:01 GMT
Thanks!! I like the Axer thought. I have been going back and forther between the Champ and second Fell Caller. Additional spray Pathfinder and +Mat is definitely worthwhile. Retaliation on P+S 14 weaponmasters just seems so good. Probably a better with the FC though... The extra spray is useful, and the accuracy buff will mean that more of your attacks hit which is kinda like getting more damage. At least that's my thought. |
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Post by gdnerd on Dec 4, 2017 19:45:07 GMT
I'm looking at Grim1, Gunnbjorn or Kolgrima to pair with him. I'd lean towards Grim1 or Gunnbjorn with your particular take on Madrak1 as it seems like it will have extreme issues with massed infantry and Grim/Gunnbjorn with a Mountain King will rip through infantry pretty handily.
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Post by trout on Dec 4, 2017 19:50:37 GMT
Thanks GD. I was actually looking towards your Gunnbjorn (Southern Open(?)) list. Serious shooting and mass infantry are probably the biggest weaknesses and I think Gunny, MK, D&S and a bomber would handle that nicely. I'm a bit concerned about serious ARM skew as well which is what I mean about this being "too generalist".
I think it's time for a "5 game challenge" to see how it performs!!
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Dec 4, 2017 20:06:16 GMT
I'm looking at Grim1, Gunnbjorn or Kolgrima to pair with him. I'd lean towards Grim1 or Gunnbjorn with your particular take on Madrak1 as it seems like it will have extreme issues with massed infantry and Grim/Gunnbjorn with a Mountain King will rip through infantry pretty handily. This, and I would swap Rok out of the Madrak list. He has only one other beast to cast Primal on, and the Champs can crack armor well enough. For the exact same point cost, a Bomber would serve better, with both Far Strike and a little ranged support to clear a charge lane, soften up a colossal, or lob potshots at pain givers. If you had more beasts it would be a different story, but with just the two, it really should be a Bomber and either an Axer, Bouncer, or Pyre. I would say much the same for any of the Madraks, but more so for 1 because it's a shame to waste Blood Boon and Ricochet. |
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Post by gdnerd on Dec 4, 2017 23:09:26 GMT
I'm looking at Grim1, Gunnbjorn or Kolgrima to pair with him. I'd lean towards Grim1 or Gunnbjorn with your particular take on Madrak1 as it seems like it will have extreme issues with massed infantry and Grim/Gunnbjorn with a Mountain King will rip through infantry pretty handily. This, and I would swap Rok out of the Madrak list. He has only one other beast to cast Primal on, and the Champs can crack armor well enough. For the exact same point cost, a Bomber would serve better, with both Far Strike and a little ranged support to clear a charge lane, soften up a colossal, or lob potshots at pain givers. If you had more beasts it would be a different story, but with just the two, it really should be a Bomber and either an Axer, Bouncer, or Pyre. I would say much the same for any of the Madraks, but more so for 1 because it's a shame to waste Blood Boon and Ricochet. This. If you aren't going in SotN with the Glacier King package IMO Bomber and Axer/Bouncer is the correct battlegroup. You're trying to leverage massed infantry so your battlegroup should be relegated to generating fury and support. |
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Post by trout on Dec 4, 2017 23:25:47 GMT
Thanks to everyone. I actually had the Bomber in there from Band of Heroes and then thought Rok made a better late game piece. I do like Snipe and the ability to spot remove from a distance. I've also seen a throw utilized to score a zone late game.
Double Fell Caller, Bomber, Bouncer takes the cake (thanks for the feedback, please keep it coming). I think it's time to close my eyes and drop it in to anything for while to see how it holds up.
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