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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Nov 18, 2017 1:53:37 GMT
So recently I have been working on constructing a Will Work for Food list with Rask, 2 Lessers, and Nyss Hunters as my core but I was wondering what would be the best solo load out to fill it out. The list gets 3 of them in its current state and I am still debating what should go in there. Efaarit seem like a good option but due to $$ I probably won't be picking any up. I was thinking Agata, Totem Hunter, and Hutchuck for some solid combat solos as some of my support solos are already included in the main list.
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Post by Azahul on Nov 18, 2017 3:17:24 GMT
Hutchuck tops my list 100% of the time.
Orin Midwinter and Ogrun Bokurs can be invaluable in allowing you to play certain match-ups where you would otherwise get trivially assassinated. Bokurs also hit like the blazes.
Kwaak & Gub once the Blindwater solos release will also be a good choice.
I'd be sceptical of Agata's effectiveness in regular Warmachine, as amazing as she is in Company of Iron. She doesn't have the output or the jamming potential that she has on a smaller board.
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Nov 18, 2017 4:20:08 GMT
Orin does seem like an obvious choice now that I think about it, Eilish Garrity I also feel like would be a good choice but he is simply so hard to come by..
I am interested to hear your thoughts on the Bokur when I first looked at him he seemed like a good choice but I felt that he would be more 'cool' than effective, too heavily limited by his client. How does that play out in your experience I have absolutely 0 table time with the model.
As far as Agata is concerned she most certainly won't be able to dominate the board like she does in COI but I am very interested in trying her out. There is a lot of skirmish potential there given she isn't in super high pressure locations.
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Post by Azahul on Nov 18, 2017 12:44:54 GMT
If the Bokur is doing his job then the client isn't really a factor. His job is to take hits that would otherwise kill your Warlock or your heavies (or, better yet, to deter your opponent from shooting at those targets entirely). He performs a similar function in that respect to Orin. He helps to remove the danger of models like Eiryss1 in setting up the assassination, or on the attrition side he can divert the big gun shots from Hurricanes under Nemo3's Feat and the like.
Incidentally, when he does make it into combat it's usually late-game and it's usually pretty easy for whichever model you chose as the client to be in position to support him (usually Arkadius and Targ if I'm running two in my Arkadius list).
I'm currently extremely annoyed that the Mist Speaker is worming its way into my lists all the time so I can deal with Wraith Engines when I'd rather an Ogrun Bokur in almost every other match.
I am interested to hear how Agata plays out, I've been having an absolute blast playing her in Company of Iron. I might put together a mass pig spam list the next time I deign to give Thornfall Alliance a play and toss her in there.
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Post by killroundears on Nov 18, 2017 14:19:45 GMT
i always like totem hunter when hes free. Kwaak will also be an easy choice considering two enlivens or two sprays etc will all be sweet
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Post by boozy on Nov 18, 2017 21:20:03 GMT
I think the double Efaarit boat+Alten Ashley boat is great if it's free, especially if you have a debuff available.
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Post by danfromchicago on Nov 19, 2017 16:43:29 GMT
I don't build a WWFF or Blindwater list without a mist speaker. That may be an overreaction, but hey
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Post by gobber on Nov 19, 2017 19:47:15 GMT
If you're planning on playing Rask definitely a mist speaker, though they're sometimes paid for instead of taken free. Giving Rask eyeless sight, +1 mat/rat, and a sac pawn is great value.
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Post by nirvanawn on Nov 20, 2017 13:22:31 GMT
My list that I change up for Rask depending on what the second list is.
Orin
Soul Slave
Kwaak
Lynyssa
Mist Speaker
Hutchuck
With other WWFF. casters this list may vary like
Targ
Elish
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Post by Gaston on Nov 20, 2017 14:22:11 GMT
If the Witch Doc keeps the ability to hand out Ghostly, casters like Arkadius will like him.
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Post by gobber on Nov 20, 2017 18:13:35 GMT
If it stays the way it ended the CID, then I'll frequently run two. Ghostly+Death Ride is gonna be fun on Brine, meat thresher, etc...
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Post by Azahul on Nov 20, 2017 20:20:08 GMT
If it stays the way it ended the CID, then I'll frequently run two. Ghostly+Death Ride is gonna be fun on Brine, meat thresher, etc... It ended CID only providing Ghostly, not Undead, for what sadly appears to be exactly that reason. |
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Nov 21, 2017 4:24:42 GMT
If it stays the way it ended the CID, then I'll frequently run two. Ghostly+Death Ride is gonna be fun on Brine, meat thresher, etc... It ended CID only providing Ghostly, not Undead, for what sadly appears to be exactly that reason. Even if it just provides ghostly I will be more than excited to include them in my lists. |
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Post by Azahul on Nov 21, 2017 10:36:39 GMT
It ended CID only providing Ghostly, not Undead, for what sadly appears to be exactly that reason. Even if it just provides ghostly I will be more than excited to include them in my lists. Oh, for sure. It was a shame though. In the original Dev Talk the Witch Doctor was going to give Undead and Ghostly to a model for a round. In the final week CID it gave Ghostly to a model for a turn. So many combinations and synergies eliminated in that change. Like, Ghostly for a round plus Kwaak would have allowed Enliven to actually do something against infantry, not to mention reducing the damage to the Warbeast from heavies and the like. Bought a Witch Doctor tonight though in anticipation of the change, so I'm going to be happy with Ghostly in any form. Still, fingers crossed they move the bar up just a tad from the final version. |
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