boozy
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Post by boozy on Nov 17, 2017 2:17:18 GMT
Checked out the Una2 card, noticed something odd.
The spell says to drop the low die, not the lowest.
Is this splitting hairs, or if you roll 3 seperate numbers, you can drop one of the bottom two?
I'm sure RAI it's meant to be the lowest, amd never seen it played otherwise. But the language isn't precise. With three numbers, low could be read as lower, if there is a lowest.
Semantics, yeah. But PP writes them tight for a reason.
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skormedlover87
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Post by skormedlover87 on Nov 17, 2017 2:37:34 GMT
Pp tries, but doesn't always hit the mark. Look up Scavengers Blessing if you want to have a laugh at questionably written rules.
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boozy
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Post by boozy on Nov 17, 2017 2:44:44 GMT
Pp tries, but doesn't always hit the mark. Look up Scavengers Blessing if you want to have a laugh at questionably written rules. Yeah, I think I saw that on the Skorne forum. It can target enemy models too. I don't know why they didn't just take Mist Walker from Dahlia+Skarath and be done with it. |
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Post by maximumhippo on Nov 17, 2017 6:25:50 GMT
Is it written like that on any of the other casters who have the spell Vlad2/3 or ToM?
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Post by haraldtorvatn on Nov 17, 2017 11:48:45 GMT
I dont think low can be interpreted in any other way than lowest.
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zich
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Post by zich on Nov 17, 2017 12:05:26 GMT
Since it is "the" low die, not "a" low die, I also see no other interpretation.
If you want janky writing, look at Drag or Puppet Master.
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Post by benjamini on Nov 17, 2017 14:42:30 GMT
I'm not sure what a circumstance where you'd ever WANT to drop a low die that isn't the lowest die would look like... but it seems pretty clear that "Lowest" is the implied meaning.
PP usually does hit the mark, but sometimes they slip up a bit.
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zich
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Post by zich on Nov 17, 2017 14:53:20 GMT
It's usually just for crits. But even then you would need at least a boosted roll for that to matter. Or when berzerking on your own models.
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Post by smoothcriminal on Nov 17, 2017 14:59:26 GMT
Signs and portents has "the lowest".
HoF has "the low" even on Vlads.
Though I don't know what difference would it make. Making yourself deliberately miss sometimes on your models maybe?
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boozy
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Post by boozy on Nov 17, 2017 17:06:23 GMT
It would mostly be for crit fishing. I don't get though why Vlad's would be different. You would all these things are built with CTRL-C, CTRL-V.
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Post by benjamini on Nov 17, 2017 19:07:41 GMT
Even if it the case that you could drop a lower dice (which to be clear, I do not think it is). Unless I am missing something, I'm not sure you could crit fish even with this unless you were rolling four dice with a boosted attack or something.
Roll two 5s and a 2 - Not a crit, have to drop the 2, as neither 5 is a "low" die
Roll a 5, a 3, and a 2 - Not a crit, no matter what is dropped
Roll a 5 and two 2s - Not a crit, have to drop one of the 2s.
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boozy
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Post by boozy on Nov 17, 2017 20:24:22 GMT
Even if it the case that you could drop a lower dice (which to be clear, I do not think it is). Unless I am missing something, I'm not sure you could crit fish even with this unless you were rolling four dice with a boosted attack or something. Roll two 5s and a 2 - Not a crit, have to drop the 2, as neither 5 is a "low" die Roll a 5, a 3, and a 2 - Not a crit, no matter what is dropped Roll a 5 and two 2s - Not a crit, have to drop one of the 2s. I agree, the application would be extremely corner case, though it's worth noting the spell says additional die to attack and damage, not boosted. This means that if I put it on Una2 and want to boost (or other target I suppose), the four dice threshold could be reached. The RAW question still stands though. Cornercase application aside, it's strange it exists in the first place. |
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Post by killroundears on Nov 18, 2017 9:02:43 GMT
Xerxis2 Feat is an example of Crit fishing setup like that, where you discard a dice of your choice, not the lowest.
So it means they are definitely open to having that kind of effect. i just don't know if Hand of Fate was intended to be that way since its pretty murky and i can see why people think its either way
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Post by GumbaFish on Nov 18, 2017 12:24:42 GMT
If I were to say "Mike has the high score on Ms. Pacman" wouldn't you interpret that as the highest? I don't see how this is any different or how the wording isn't clear that it is the lowest.
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