Journeyman, Primal, and Warbeast Packs

its an interesting idea as long as you contend with the super low base threat on the pack. if some have to run in thats okay to provide their version of gang as long as the big primal boss man gets in since even if only 1 is making attacks it'll make quite a few.

You might also be better off buffing some of skornes other value lights like the Brute (up to SPD8 Mat7 PS16 shield PS18 halberd) or the cyclops savage (SPD8 mat8 PS19 sword, that's basically a juggernaut weapon but with double the speed and more mat)

Generally if going the primal missile route you just want anything cheap that trades well so you can just keep firing off missiles while morg1s nasty feat covers you defensively

Cool, thanks for the replies, my dudes! I'm definitely going for it now, one of my buddies is willing to trade his four (four!?) Scarab packs for some of my Menoth. This is going to get ridiculous. I think positioning is going to be tough, and I'll have to be really mindful of potential tramples. I'm going to be hiding behind the Battle Boar and casting Admonition a lot. It's for sure not an easy list to play, but that's part of why I want to play it.

With Abuse the Scarabs are SPD 7, and on the initial engagement only one really has to arrive, the rest can run no sweat. 5 attacks at POW 17 should have a 50/50 shot to kill most things outside Khador and the really heavy Cygnar jacks.

I'd love to try reptile hounds at some point too, I really want them to do cool things. My concern for them is that they don't charge or run for free (like the bugs do), Morghoul isn't great at Fury management, and they'll leave the Beast Handlers behind pretty quickly. There is the thought that Reptile Hounds have more flexibility in where you send them, but really they still need to pair off to do any really big hits (equivalent POW 14 WM) and they're much easier to kill. I sort of wish the Hounds could Flank off of any Skorne warbeasts, then they could act as finishers like LoE Shredders. Oh well. I'm thinking the bugs are better for this pseudo-spam right now, but I think we'll give the Hounds a fair shot!

Edit: Checked the rules forum, it looks like the only answer we have so far on the bugs Frenzying is the "Warbeast Pack Frenzy" rule in Primal: If the unit commander frenzies, all models in the pack also frenzy. When a model in the pack frenzies, it ignores the other models in its pack when determining which model it charges. This kind of leads me to think that by RAW, just the model you Primal will frenzy and the rest of the unit won't as long as it wasn't the unit commander.  Pretty confusing, especially if I'm playing against new people, so I think I'll just play it as the whole unit Frenzies until a more clear ruling is established.

What is the goal of that list Zich? To abuse Defensive Strike and Countercharge with a million billion Scarabs? I'm brandy new to Skorne and am probably not seeing the interactions.

TBH I was thinking about four Scarab swarms under Hexy2. With each and every one becoming an arc node, I feel like it's just a matter of time before you get a bead on the enemy caster to start blasting away with Ashes to Ashes or Hellfire. Probably run a couple Kreas as well for the Paralysis sprays. Also pretty terrible, but it might be fun!

That would get quite ridiculous. I could see it against infantry heavy forces for sure, on feat Turn you'd have 16 Mat 7 POW 10 Defensive Strike hits and Countercharges, enough to give you at least a 50/50 shot on killing the majority of melee infantry.