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Post by Cheesebeard on Apr 14, 2017 22:06:18 GMT
More successful is an upset I'd welcome. Yeah, that's why I think it's a local maxima, but that there are other builds out there that will perform better, with the hypothetical "optimal build(s)" somewhere in the aether. This one succeeds in doing what I was attempting to do ("...use the Blightbringer to construct a balanced list featuring a midline caster"), and any adjustments I make to create a more competition-level list will probably change the build enough that it will look and function completely differently once the dust settles. I like this build, and I'll tinker with it, but ultimately I think there are inefficiencies that when removed will lead to a better holistic state. |
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 16, 2017 23:57:53 GMT
Does Flank(friendly faction lesser warbeast) on the beast mistress stack with Flank(friendly faction warbeast) from the feat? If so that would be a +4 to attack rolls and 5d6 on the charge. |
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Post by malnorma on Apr 17, 2017 0:45:45 GMT
Pretty sure the name of that effect is "Flank" and the parenthetical is just a qualifier for what grants it, so it will not stack.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 17, 2017 2:06:43 GMT
Pretty sure the name of that effect is "Flank" and the parenthetical is just a qualifier for what grants it, so it will not stack. Thanx, seems sometimes I crap dreams and piss rainbows. |
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Post by izrian on Apr 17, 2017 15:15:07 GMT
Ended up running this list, this past weekend. Ended up working out but I think it was partially because of what it was paired against.
Brisbane, storm wall, 2 defenders, full unit of lances, strange ways. On most put.
Ended the defenders never got engaged, managed to take out stormwall bottom turn 3, carni. Managed to keep the storm lances tied up for 2 turns, bad dice for the lances. Managed to get a caster kill with melded bethayne. Walk up and smash.
My biggest issue was I did not get an opportunity to pop feat. My opponent managed to shoot all my infantry off the table before they could take advantage of it. Did get some game changing hex bolts off though
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 17, 2017 18:15:34 GMT
Ended up running this list, this past weekend. Ended up working out but I think it was partially because of what it was paired against. Brisbane, storm wall, 2 defenders, full unit of lances, strange ways. On most put. Ended the defenders never got engaged, managed to take out stormwall bottom turn 3, carni. Managed to keep the storm lances tied up for 2 turns, bad dice for the lances. Managed to get a caster kill with melded bethayne. Walk up and smash. My biggest issue was I did not get an opportunity to pop feat. My opponent managed to shoot all my infantry off the table before they could take advantage of it. Did get some game changing hex bolts off though The most surprising way to get the feat off is by utilizing models that can buy attacks i.e. bethayne, forsaken, beast mistress. |
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Post by izrian on Apr 17, 2017 19:01:22 GMT
I defiantly agree. Unfortunately I wasn't able to deliver them to where they needed to be. And by the time I was able to pull off an assassination BB, and my Neph. Where roughly 3" out. I wasn't expecting my opponent to move how he did.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Apr 17, 2017 21:06:37 GMT
I defiantly agree. Unfortunately I wasn't able to deliver them to where they needed to be. And by the time I was able to pull off an assassination BB, and my Neph. Where roughly 3" out. I wasn't expecting my opponent to move how he did. during maintenance bethayne can separate from belphagore then activate belphagore first move to engage then activate bethayne to get the flank bonus. |
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