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jisidro
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Company of iron Oct 26, 2017 10:45:05 GMT

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Post by jisidro on Oct 26, 2017 10:45:05 GMT

Company of Iron:
Out of the gate review, haven’t seen advanced rules nor have I seen the command cards… Assuming Beast warden is like jack marshall with a way to cast animus.

Casting na animus requires an action on from the beast warden, so your general does nothing to get the animus going... ouch.

Warbeasts:
We lack very tough beasts that could perhaps withstand being charged or shot. This feels very circly.

Moonhound Argus: Stealth Solution and RAT bonus… for ~25% of the army sounds like a lot but I feel this needs game experience to evaluate.

Gorax: Pain response allows him to charge for free and use crush or strike true + a possible primal to be a very heavy hitter.

Razorwing: Costs 1 requisition point, I guess it’s because he tramples. Given that cards give boosts and/or additional dice I don’t see it yet.

Scarsfell: 1 requisition point as well, Stealth, 3 initials and dodge. If a combat light makes it I think this will be it… even with ARM 13.

Wild Argus: Great animus, 2 attacks… MAT 5 sounds really bad but if he doesn’t get to buy attacks but can charge and cast his animus then he is mat not-snakes.

Winter Argus: Can he boost his rat by a mile? He can go to RAT 6. mmm.....

Woldwatcher: The rules says: "warbeast that is in the command range of its beast warden can perform any one action on its stat card that would require it to be forced.". Does this inlude stone form?

WoldWyrd: Pretty sure he’ll be good. ROF 3 and RAT 6 is probably enough. Is 9pts that much? Is he worth 6/7 guys? Right now, I’d say yes.

Units:

Death Wolves: The injury roll looks like a Female Dog for them. Don't believe they are worth it. Is prowl that good?

Druids of Orboros: 16 points for RAT 6 attacks… If you see Sacred Ward you’re Firetrucked. Perhaps fair since you have it as well 

Reeves: Too expensive, too low pow? Depends on the adversary I guess… Not convinced but they cost a requisition point.

Woldstalkers: 10 pts for 5 shots… are the abilities enough? How will the cards affect them?

Blood pack: Riiight. Requisition? Lol? Or Lol on me? Kill a guy and only 33% of getting a corpse is really bad. bad bad bad.

Bloodtrackers: Look amazing. Outthreat most stuff, hit well enough. Expensive. Nualla is a good commander? Requisition on both makes sense.

Bloodweavers: Fast Stealth looks really good. Pity you can’t take 2?

Ravagers: No requisition cost? Sad face. Face sad. Chieftain costs 1 requisition… yay? Kill a guy and only 33% of getting a corpse is really bad. bad bad bad.

Skinwalkers: 2 requisition points? The 0 cost stormblades from the box will demolish them if they charge… Perhaps they can do a cover formation to let the back guys heal once and then steap ahead? Would be cool to put big wolves in play.

WoO: min unit gives you 6 guys for 7 points that charge 11” with MAT 8 POW 9… and they give you a requisition point? What am I missing despite victim stats?

Solos:

Stoneshaper: Good combo with the wolds and a nice spray. Will be sure to play if wolds play. +1 requisition point.

Wayfarer: Great spray, dead spell and hunter’s mark. MAT 7 charge will battle wizard.

Night Witch: Looks awesome. Costs requisition. Check! Grievous looks like enough reason to play them.

LotF: Great stats until he gets hit then DEF 12 will probably doom him. Stealth not enough to put him into play. No requisition cost confirms it for me.

Reeve Hunter: pew pew and pew and pew and pew and didn’t break armour. His victim stats won’t help and his synergy with reeves isn’t great. Plz make me be wrong.

Shaman: Expensive but has no KD to give to tough guys + lightning + magic weapons probably makes him good.

White mane: No requisition cost makes me sad for corpse tokens. Kill a guy and only 33% of getting a corpse is really bad. bad bad bad.

War Wolf: If awesome => Reeve hunter happy. If not… is their cost low enough?

I can’t see great synergies, veteran leader and no great character solos… I see trackers or Wyrds… Perhaps a few others once we see the adanced rules.

Any ideas on how we fight very developed themes with strong characters than can probably make a list?

Last Edit: Oct 26, 2017 11:30:11 GMT by jisidro

jisidro The Sky Fell Posts: 1,527	Company of iron Oct 26, 2017 10:46:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jisidro on Oct 26, 2017 10:46:05 GMT Reading advanced rules (privateerpress.com/organized-play/game-rules-errata )and will update above.

macdaddy
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Company of iron Oct 26, 2017 13:09:43 GMT

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Post by macdaddy on Oct 26, 2017 13:09:43 GMT

I have been thinking just running min wolves of orboros with the UA and a unit of woldstalkers. Wolves of orboros seem really good in COI with repo, power swell and cheapness. Bloodtrackers also seem good with nualla for swift hunter and quick work. I don't exactly understand a lot of the requisition choices.

The "everyone is basically tough" system is obnoxious. In my practice games it has been really dice swingy and annoying to deal with. Luckily melee can counteract that a bit.

I played Mohsar Before it was cool!

Nahualli Boots on the Ground Posts: 82	Company of iron Oct 26, 2017 15:28:47 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Nahualli on Oct 26, 2017 15:28:47 GMT My team for Company of Iron will be 2 units of blood weavers and a night witch. Killing spree on individual activations will be awesome. Also agree that grievous wounds will be a good strategy.

leotherat Junior Strategist Posts: 374	Company of iron Oct 26, 2017 16:00:14 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by leotherat on Oct 26, 2017 16:00:14 GMT I thought of that exact combo as well. There's only one teeny problem. All units are FA1. I'm thinking of putting in a wild or winter argus for a little more oomph.

jisidro
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Company of iron Oct 27, 2017 14:10:03 GMT

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Post by jisidro on Oct 27, 2017 14:10:03 GMT

Here are my initial thoughts (I don't have info on the commander special card thingies):

Circle:
- Max Trackers + Nuala(-1) +

1) Night Witch (-1), 1 point down
2) 1 Warwolf + Stoneshaper (+1)

Long threat with melee or ranged, Stealth, Prey, Nuala the super solo

- Skinwalkers Max (-2) + CA +1 Warwolf + Wayfarer/Reeve Hunter?

Try the brick option with 8 life + Hyper Regen (Anyone know how this works with the injured status?), War wolf get some extra charges because skinwalkers are Wolfsworn).

- WoldWatcher + WoldWyrd + Stoneshaper (+1)+ Blackclad

This assumes the Watcher can use stoneform the idea is to have a reselient force with 4 shots and 2 sprays.

Last Edit: Oct 30, 2017 12:17:49 GMT by jisidro

Lord_Randall Junior Strategist Posts: 186	Company of iron Oct 27, 2017 17:29:11 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Lord_Randall on Oct 27, 2017 17:29:11 GMT Warwolves are fa1

jisidro The Sky Fell Posts: 1,527	Company of iron Oct 30, 2017 12:15:36 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jisidro on Oct 30, 2017 12:15:36 GMT Oct 27, 2017 17:29:11 GMT Lord_Randall said: Warwolves are fa1 Oh damm...

rezfon
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Company of iron Oct 30, 2017 13:58:18 GMT via mobile

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Post by rezfon on Oct 30, 2017 13:58:18 GMT

Played yesterday using the box contents and the no quarter scenarios for them. I feel hand size is incredibly powerful considering how many boost or additional die cards there are on top of how strong some of the once a turn abilities are.

Unfortunately circles only things that give +1 are stoneshaper and min wolves.

I'd be hesitant to drop to a 3 card hand, I was easily using all 5 cards in hand each turn when playing.

catulle 10 Point Advantage Posts: 78	Company of iron Oct 30, 2017 22:03:43 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by catulle on Oct 30, 2017 22:03:43 GMT First out of the gate, I'm going to try Night Witch, Blood Weavers, Scarsfell and play to our quick high-Def stealth themes. Hand size is horrible, though.

Forsaken Junior Strategist Posts: 163	Company of iron Nov 2, 2017 0:49:34 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Forsaken on Nov 2, 2017 0:49:34 GMT Card hand size is a big deal. Ignore requisition at your peril. I think we could use another solo or 2.

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