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Post by galiman on Oct 11, 2017 19:42:25 GMT
Recently I’ve been hearing a lot of trollblood players who are very excited about what’s happening to them in the next month or so from their CID. But I can’t help but feel that for most of this CID the community just got shot down. So with our CID coming to an end and the dust settling on all the new models and adjustments did anything ACTUALLY change for us? As is I can’t see how barny2 helps us and as cool as the Dracodile is it’s still a gargantuan. I can see new maelok posse spam being a possible competitive addition but even with signs and portents I’m still on the fence about Jaga shaking anything up. I feel we will still be on the lower side. Thoughts?
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Post by trollsareblue on Oct 11, 2017 19:53:38 GMT
At this point, any improvement for Troll is cause for celebration. I wouldn't put too much on that. Minions look solid to me!
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Post by Gaston on Oct 11, 2017 20:03:46 GMT
Minions is competitive.
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Post by galiman on Oct 11, 2017 20:22:04 GMT
Then maybe I’m just that bad of a player because I find I’m struggling with all match ups in my mega. cygnar double storm strider electro leap cheese, skorne in its entirety, convergence armor skew and ret infantry spam. It’s just really hard to make a pairing that deals with all of these and I find it difficult to effectltnpiece trade against good opponents.
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Post by Azahul on Oct 11, 2017 22:30:34 GMT
Play Arkadius in WWFF. Just kill their 'casters  |
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Post by galiman on Oct 11, 2017 22:43:15 GMT
😂 I’m mean isnt that kinda sad that despite this CID we are still assassinate with arkadius?
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Post by Lahn on Oct 11, 2017 23:03:30 GMT
😂 I’m mean isnt that kinda sad that despite this CID we are still assassinate with arkadius? No. It is ideal. This CID was Gators. Having Pigs be perfectly competitive without a CID cycle is a great place to be. |
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Post by pox on Oct 11, 2017 23:12:06 GMT
Minions have a lot of great tools and the extra options from the CID will go a long way - ye perhaps forgot soul slave and soul shrine on the list of very nice additions to the faction. Depending on how Maelok gets through he could be great to decent. Jaga Jaga has been getting some decent play results - in fact it is mostly Barnabas 2 that people are still worried about.
I mean some of our stuff was in such a sweet spot it didn't really need any chances (Rask, Calaban, Barny 1, Wrastlers, Posse, Vault etc.)
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Post by Gaston on Oct 12, 2017 0:21:35 GMT
Posse are not sweet spot grumblegrumblegrumble.....
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Post by custardboy on Oct 12, 2017 0:46:29 GMT
😂 I’m mean isnt that kinda sad that despite this CID we are still assassinate with arkadius? No. It is ideal. This CID was Gators. Having Pigs be perfectly competitive without a CID cycle is a great place to be. Perfectly competitive at throwing beasts at peoples faces from across the board! What's your favourite bacon flavour? Carver and Arkadius, we've got both! |
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Post by Azahul on Oct 12, 2017 1:29:47 GMT
Perfectly competitive at throwing beasts at peoples faces from across the board! What's your favourite bacon flavour? Carver and Arkadius, we've got both! I use both! |
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Post by thesystemforce on Oct 12, 2017 3:02:40 GMT
Honestly, I think we are. There's just a ton of good stuff going on in Minions right now. WWFF is strong, Blindwater Congregation has legs, and we've got some nice variety in play-styles. I'm hoping Barney2 gets beefed up just a bit more and can join our competitive locks. If EOBN gets changed to work vs. everything I think he has a ton of potential. As is though, I'm already really liking Arkadius, Rask, Calaban, and Jaga-Jaga (though a lot there will depend on how the final version of her feat works).
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Oct 12, 2017 3:45:12 GMT
I would agree I think that there are plenty of competitive options in minions, Ark is ridiculous at times and Calaban has good game into ghost fleet which is a problem in some metas.
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Post by Lahn on Oct 12, 2017 4:01:16 GMT
I would agree I think that there are plenty of competitive options in minions, Ark is ridiculous at times and Calaban has good game into ghost fleet which is a problem in some metas. The internet tells me to drop a line about DH Coven. I'm uninformed, how does the Calaban versus non-GF go? Long threat Bane Cav seem problematic. |
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Post by dagowit on Oct 12, 2017 7:40:59 GMT
I know my finacée played Barnabas double Vaults into a Khador cavalry army at a recent tournement and almost won (as in: if she had tried the matchup before it could very likely have changed the outcome). She claimed that the initial charges will not kill the vaults and you then start shooting the cavalry models with Vaults, forcing them to hit their fellows in the back. You focus on the front line and eliminate it, potentially getting ahead on attrition.
I imagine something similar will work on Bane Riders although I admit that the Coven's feat is annoying to work around. Maybe some cheap screening models like Shamblers would help?
In general, though, I agree that Minions is already competitive (although you may want to mix Thornfall and Blindwater models) and the CID will certainly help bring other Blindwater Warlocks than Rask and Calaban to the table.
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