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Post by custardboy on Oct 4, 2017 2:17:07 GMT
Eh, not really. I mean, you COULD field one with Jaga-Jaga. S+P, escort and puppet strings makes for a pretty reliable way to blind the enemy caster from 20" away. If you have croaks in range, go for it. If it dies you wouldn't get to move with death rage but I think you'd get to make the attack?
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Post by Gaston on Oct 4, 2017 2:23:21 GMT
It really does feel like the Draco just fell off the radar completely.
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Post by sgregorbmmd on Oct 4, 2017 2:32:47 GMT
Overall, lots of good changes. Still holding out hope for 8 box bokors and witch docs and a little more help for the posse. Though I am interested in trying them with Barnabas2 and onslaught now.
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Post by custardboy on Oct 4, 2017 2:33:40 GMT
My friends asked if I was jealous of gator players getting the dracodile. I said I'm happy they got it so pigs probably won't be lumped with a gargantuan
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Post by Cryptix on Oct 4, 2017 2:39:26 GMT
I still want rules for that kitbashed monstrosity of a gargantuan that was in one of the NQs.
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Post by ankiseth on Oct 4, 2017 4:14:09 GMT
Onslaught for Barney is cool but damn I wish he had SOME out-of-activation movement going on. He’s so dynamic with Countercharge and Warpath, seems out of character to change him to such a blunt instrument.
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Post by macdaddy on Oct 4, 2017 5:12:37 GMT
It really does feel like the Draco just fell off the radar completely. What do you think it needs?
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flogger
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Post by flogger on Oct 4, 2017 6:10:47 GMT
Thing is, now that JagaJagas feat is enemy models in her CTRL, she won't reach support solos and such because they'll be too far back. If she reaches that far back she's most likely too close to the enemy anyhow and will most likely die next turn.
I don't know, I think people are greatly overexaggerating when it comes to how good this feat is.
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Post by huckebein on Oct 4, 2017 7:58:26 GMT
It really does feel like the Draco just fell off the radar completely. What do you think it needs? Survivability with a warlock that wants a gargantuan, mostly. also for the wrassler and bull snapper to swap animi
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Post by jisidro on Oct 4, 2017 9:48:42 GMT
Thing is, now that JagaJagas feat is enemy models in her CTRL, she won't reach support solos and such because they'll be too far back. If she reaches that far back she's most likely too close to the enemy anyhow and will most likely die next turn. I don't know, I think people are greatly overexaggerating when it comes to how good this feat is. Where befre I thought it was OP now it's... trade my models for yours? Seems like it needs some icing on the cake...
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Post by Gaston on Oct 4, 2017 10:40:24 GMT
Thing is, now that JagaJagas feat is enemy models in her CTRL, she won't reach support solos and such because they'll be too far back. If she reaches that far back she's most likely too close to the enemy anyhow and will most likely die next turn. I don't know, I think people are greatly overexaggerating when it comes to how good this feat is. Where befre I thought it was OP now it's... trade my models for yours? Seems like it needs some icing on the cake... Trade my cheap models for your expensive ones?
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Post by jisidro on Oct 4, 2017 11:26:42 GMT
Where befre I thought it was OP now it's... trade my models for yours? Seems like it needs some icing on the cake... Trade my cheap models for your expensive ones?
Perhaps it's a weaker feat to balance S&P? There are a lot of weaker feats but do you think it's a strong one?
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Post by Gaston on Oct 4, 2017 12:24:22 GMT
Trade my cheap models for your expensive ones?
Perhaps it's a weaker feat to balance S&P? There are a lot of weaker feats but do you think it's a strong one?
Upper middle. Consider that you can easily remove your opponent's Choir for example (if I recall correctly the latest CID doesn't require LOS). Or Arcanist Mechaniks. Ghost Fleet leader bros and Riflemen. Pistol Wraiths. Gremlin Swarms. The counterbalance is that Jaga will need to be far enough forward to catch them in her control area and not die. So the key will be how do you use your army and terrain to keep her safe.
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Post by dagowit on Oct 4, 2017 13:10:27 GMT
I like the proposed changes. Jaga-Jaga gets to keep Signs & Portents and still has some anti-incorporeal tech through her feat. The feat itself isn't that impressive but she is, I believe, in a much stronger spot than before the CID changes.
Actually, my main concern is Barnabas1. Swamp Pit and the feat are both very strong but it just seems like he is missing something (maybe an interesting Field Marshal?). He is not really durable compared to Barnabas2 and the other Warlocks do combined arms better. Is anyone planning on fielding Barnabas1 after the CID changes go through?
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Post by Cryptix on Oct 4, 2017 13:42:17 GMT
I kinda wanna see Barnie swap Warpath for Battle Charged (battlegroup gains Countercharge in control area).
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