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Post by albertairish on Sept 27, 2017 22:22:11 GMT
Traded Dominate Undead for Death Ride, and Zombify now let's your model move 3" and make a melee attack after being disabled. Thoughts?
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Post by thehoffman2787 on Sept 27, 2017 22:38:46 GMT
I think this is an upgrade. Ive only played her with Maelok and with the changes to him she got better.
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Post by boozy on Sept 27, 2017 22:42:44 GMT
Death Ride is the 1" advance by Undead models within CMD, right?
Sounds good, especially with Maelok. An out-of-activation move is always nice.
Zombify...does that mean it no longer makes the unit Undead, but instead grants a Bone Shaker light on disabled? Definitely cool, though I don't get how it would work unless it made the unit Undead as well.
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Post by huckebein on Sept 27, 2017 23:40:06 GMT
Death Ride is the 1" advance by Undead models within CMD, right? Sounds good, especially with Maelok. An out-of-activation move is always nice. Zombify...does that mean it no longer makes the unit Undead, but instead grants a Bone Shaker light on disabled? Definitely cool, though I don't get how it would work unless it made the unit Undead as well. Zombify does also make the unit undead. Anything is better than granted:tough as well. Death ride isn't ooa movement, its an extra inch on their next advance. Still really nice, and almost always better than dominate. |
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Post by custardboy on Sept 27, 2017 23:43:25 GMT
It makes the MODEL undead. It's a downgrade. Probably removing the 'unit becomes undead' to prevent the new Maelok being broken.
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Sept 27, 2017 23:55:14 GMT
It makes the MODEL undead. It's a downgrade. Probably removing the 'unit becomes undead' to prevent the new Maelok being broken. Honestly I don't think it being model/unit undead would really effect new Maelok seeing as he will most likely be casting death pact on feat turn anyway. |
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Post by mcdermott on Sept 28, 2017 0:26:43 GMT
Its mostly because if zombify was unit wide entire gator units could un-kill themselves with snacking + last word
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Post by joedj on Sept 28, 2017 0:27:57 GMT
It makes the MODEL undead. It's a downgrade. Probably removing the 'unit becomes undead' to prevent the new Maelok being broken. Honestly I don't think it being model/unit undead would really effect new Maelok seeing as he will most likely be casting death pact on feat turn anyway. Maelok doesn't have to cast the Death Pact on Feat, since the warriors gain Incorporeal regardless of Undead status. Though it does provide effective +4 ARM to warriors, Feat stacked with Death Pact.
Death Ride is ok for my ALREADY Undead Cryxians. With Witch Doctor, I'm pretty sure a 1" movement buff to occasionally Undead guys is a pretty bad use of my points, unless free in Theme. Zombify would work if we had 1-wound Weaponmasters to present a "damned if you do/damned if you don't" quandary to the opponent when positioning a cheap pt cost model. Pending?
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Post by DoktorGrym on Sept 28, 2017 4:39:01 GMT
I keep thinking with Midas after he recovers his Warbeasts, the 1 " could assist themmlate game/post feat.
Better, the Boneswarm the Blind Walker can gain the 1" very often.
There is some good potential synergy with the revised Witch Doctor.
KSW
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 29, 2017 13:14:41 GMT
death ride makes shamblers and boneswarms faster. Other than that it seems like a downgrade.
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Post by Sarcastastic on Sept 29, 2017 13:28:20 GMT
Death Ride is way more useful than Dominate Undead (which was useful in what, the mirror, sometimes Cryx, and maybe Skorne?) and the effect of Zombify is really cool, but these guys are tailor made for Maelok usage it seems.
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Post by albertairish on Sept 29, 2017 13:58:14 GMT
I think I'll probably take one in my Maelok lists, but that's about it.
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Post by Cryptix on Sept 29, 2017 14:02:13 GMT
Is there a caster that could possibly work with max shamblers and husks, just clogging the field? The new Jaja-Jaja maybe?
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Post by gobber on Sept 29, 2017 19:40:27 GMT
Jaga probably works well. The bokurs won't be quite as good at killing heavies as with Rask or Calaban though. Rask can sac pawn to the grunts and always brings a mist speaker. Some croaks/ambushers etc to feed them are probably still ideal
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