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Post by albertairish on Sept 27, 2017 22:20:49 GMT
9/20: Cost 16, Tentacles gain Chain Strike
Chain Strike - This weapon becomes RNG 4 during this model’s activation.
Thoughts?
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joedj
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Post by joedj on Sept 28, 2017 0:14:54 GMT
16 points is too costly, especially when the Wrastler is this beast's nearly required 'attachment'.
Tricky, in a game that doesn't reward EXPENSIVE (pt cost) tricks.
42 points was way too much for Chain Strike on a Garg.
19 points on Kharybdis also too much.
I think this ability may be overvalued.
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Post by trollquinn on Sept 28, 2017 0:46:50 GMT
They lowered the 42pt cost of the seaking. Maybe swamp horror will get lowered as well...
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Post by Cryptix on Sept 28, 2017 0:59:47 GMT
They said in the CID that the point cost is the result of the Overtake interaction of WWFF.
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Post by Deadneck on Sept 28, 2017 1:59:41 GMT
They also said they are willing to consider Fury 4 to go with the new cost.
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Post by albertairish on Sept 28, 2017 2:17:20 GMT
I'd probably take one in WWFF with Jaga-Jaga. That's the only place.
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Post by mcdermott on Sept 28, 2017 3:44:24 GMT
Really? I mean rask can fury after all.
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Post by flogger on Sept 28, 2017 4:41:32 GMT
Swampie seems like a real solid choice now. After all, he's now a 4" threat extender for the rest of the army and anyone who has faced Proteus know that this is a real pain.
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Post by pox on Sept 28, 2017 10:29:53 GMT
at 16pts still gonna need to be Fury 4 to really content with the fact it needs support to threaten anything bigger then basic infantry. Barnabas and WWWFF giving it overtake is nice to help it munch through units with auto-hit and warpath extra move.
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Post by albertairish on Sept 28, 2017 12:08:19 GMT
It's only a 4" threat extender if you had your other beast/model 3" or more behind the Horror to begin with. Given that the Horror is slow as shit it seems like something that might happen late game but not something you would want to reliably set up.
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joedj
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Post by joedj on Sept 28, 2017 18:27:39 GMT
Also trading a 16 pt beast to pull in a 10-12 point Khadoran 'jack, for others to kill, would not be a good trade.
If I can get my tentacles on a Mulg or a Imperatus? Ok then.
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Post by mcdermott on Sept 28, 2017 22:33:12 GMT
at 16pts still gonna need to be Fury 4 to really content with the fact it needs support to threaten anything bigger then basic infantry. Barnabas and WWWFF giving it overtake is nice to help it munch through units with auto-hit and warpath extra move. Everything thats not 20+ points requires support to threaten jacks and the like. Almost nothing in that point range reliably one rounds another heavy that isn't SUPER fragile already. (lookin at you slayer chassis) Barnabus is the only caster who can't innately give it +2 to 3 for pow on a hard target, and Rage is in faction. Effective pow 22 on the bite and 18 on the tentacles is trivial plus in CID it now outhreats the wrastler by 2 inches. |
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on Sept 29, 2017 2:49:40 GMT
I will say that its in a relatively good place now, It may still be fairly slow but the simple fact that it has Chain Strike and Pull makes it threat some really good distances.
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Post by ForEver_Blight on Sept 29, 2017 12:37:25 GMT
I like everything about him except his animus now. Really not worth the resources.
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Post by rexxigar on Oct 1, 2017 20:55:09 GMT
Yeah witch Rage in faction and everything gaining 1 inch range there is kinda no need. There is a place where it is useful to put it on the shambler bokur under rask, but I cant think of many other places.
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