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Post by Big Fat Troll on Sept 26, 2017 18:47:23 GMT
With Black Industries this should be doable. The challenge is to get more than five Cryx heavy warjacks or four heavies and one colossal into a list while still having something that would be pretty good in tournament play. What caster do you use and why? How do you deal with the Breakdown and Outlast scenarios? To that, "I would be inclined to drop my other list." IS an acceptable answer, IF you tell us what that list would be. So, any ideas? Slayer spam? Seethers? A Reaper or two?
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Post by tiberius on Sept 27, 2017 12:25:52 GMT
Interesting challenge, when do we expect Black Industries to hit Warroom so I can see the complete list of stuff allowed?
Anyhow, I would start with a caster like Denegra the Soul Weaver for her feat and spell package. Scourge, ghost walk and mortality will make a hell jack army sing for trample assassination. The only army I would think twice about dropping it against would be something with a lot of medium bases that I cannot trample through with my jacks to get to the caster behind. But with mortality, that may not be an issue anyhow as a lot of the jacks would clean up.
I would want a pair of the shield guard heavies at 13 pts a piece, + carapace from theme, will make them annoyingly difficult to do much to your army at range. Withershadow Combine I always like with Denny3 for the free upkeep and reroll.
A mix of seethers, reapers and slayers would all fit well and you can probably include a screening unit of drudges if you want, but I think they would be too slow for this army. You may want to go all in on heavies and just get your three free lights, a pair of ripjaws or night wretches, and a flying jack like the little trample chicken.
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Post by tiberius on Sept 27, 2017 14:09:07 GMT
Okay, here is what I am messing around with:
Denegra the Soul Weaver
- Inflictor x 2
- Seether
- Slayer x 2
- Reaper
- Leviathan
- withershadow combine
3 free lights: nightwretch x 2 and a shrike
Warwitch siren
soul trapper to round out the 1 point
That is 20 free points of jacks...holy cow. With carapace, your jacks will most likely get to the opponents. You have the pop and drop as a backup assassination avenue vs jack to the face. This list does not attrition well and probably doesn't do scenario well.
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Post by npe on Sept 27, 2017 18:35:05 GMT
conflictchamber.com/#c4201b_-0U0B1w1s1s1s1s1f1f1f1ff02B2BCryx Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Black Industries (Pre-release) !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Deneghra 2) Wraith Witch Deneghra [+28] - Deathjack [23] - Leviathan [16] - Leviathan [16] - Leviathan [16] - Leviathan [16] - Nightwretch [0(7)] - Nightwretch [0(7)] - Nightwretch [0(7)] - Nightwretch [7] Soul Trapper [1] Warwitch Siren [4] Warwitch Siren [4]
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Post by tarviche on Sept 27, 2017 19:31:15 GMT
I'd almost prefer that list with Deneghra 3.
Anyway, this is the list I really want to believe would work, but probably wouldn't. We're just not the faction for it.
Mortenebra 1
-Inflictor
-Seether
-Seether
-Slayer
-Desecrator
-Desecrator
-Stalker
-Stalker
-Scavenger (free)
-Scavenger (free)
-Nightwretch (free)
Scrap Thralls (3)
Machine Wraith
Machine Wraith
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Post by Deller on Sept 28, 2017 2:43:59 GMT
conflictchamber.com/#c4201b_-0Uf_193c3c3c3c3c3c1f3b3b2k2kCryx Army - 65 / 75 points [Theme] Black Industries (Pre-release) !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Agathia 1) Bane Witch Agathia [+29] - Deathripper [6] - Desecrator [14] - Desecrator [14] - Desecrator [14] - Desecrator [14] - Desecrator [14] - Desecrator [14] - Nightwretch [0(7)] - Scavenger [0(7)] - Scavenger [0(7)] Machine Wraith [2] Machine Wraith [2] I'm waiting to see what Black Ogrun Ironmongers look like before determining the last 10 points. Since it doesn't say the free jacks need to belong to the caster I might put the Scavengers on Aiakos1. Either way Agathia can fuel the 6 heavies at no real cost to herself letting them fully boost their Scather guns, and she adds an additional layer of anti-shooting tech via feat.
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Post by Gamingdevil on Sept 28, 2017 7:14:31 GMT
Okay, here is what I am messing around with: Denegra the Soul Weaver - Inflictor x 2 - Seether - Slayer x 2 - Reaper - Leviathan - withershadow combine 3 free lights: nightwretch x 2 and a shrike Warwitch siren soul trapper to round out the 1 point That is 20 free points of jacks...holy cow. With carapace, your jacks will most likely get to the opponents. You have the pop and drop as a backup assassination avenue vs jack to the face. This list does not attrition well and probably doesn't do scenario well. That only gets up to 88 points of paid warjacks (13*2+13+10*2+13+16) I think this theme will most likely usually take only 2 free choices and be a more balanced list or take <10 points of support and go all the way. |
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Post by tiberius on Sept 28, 2017 10:28:00 GMT
Okay, here is what I am messing around with: Denegra the Soul Weaver - Inflictor x 2 - Seether - Slayer x 2 - Reaper - Leviathan - withershadow combine 3 free lights: nightwretch x 2 and a shrike Warwitch siren soul trapper to round out the 1 point That is 20 free points of jacks...holy cow. With carapace, your jacks will most likely get to the opponents. You have the pop and drop as a backup assassination avenue vs jack to the face. This list does not attrition well and probably doesn't do scenario well. That only gets up to 88 points of paid warjacks (13*2+13+10*2+13+16) I think this theme will most likely usually take only 2 free choices and be a more balanced list or take <10 points of support and go all the way. Good catch, I guess I would drop the warwitch and the soul trapper and upgrade the reaper to nightmare. Though I do hate losing the warwitch. |
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