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Post by redbaron89 on Sept 24, 2017 6:14:15 GMT
Been having issues with the afg in ret. The battle engine is extremely tough to kill and is an incredible gun platform.
Only answers ive found are:
1) Trample a heavy towards it and hope it dies.
2) run something up to it so it doesnt get aiming perks.
3) ignore it and kill caster.
Thoughts? How do i effectively deal with this thing?
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Post by josephkerr on Sept 24, 2017 6:38:41 GMT
I like option 2. Incubii, raeks, even spell martyrs can all engage the cricket, and its more pedestrian at rat 7 into us anyway. Also, hopefully our themes will change to allow minion solos so we can add bokurs in theme. I keep pretending its available in my list building and its amazing how often I can cobble together 5 points for him.
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Post by redbaron89 on Sept 24, 2017 10:36:09 GMT
A 3 man single wound shield guard unit might be nice.
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twity
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Post by twity on Sept 24, 2017 12:30:12 GMT
I destroyed a list with one using Fyanna in Ravens. In the end I just cleared zones and won on Scenario, and the Cricket was forced to aim just to have a chance at hitting me on feat turn so it was nowhere near a circle. The thing needs good targets which can make it devastating against Legion, but Ravens does a good job of denying it any fun.
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Post by maximumhippo on Sept 24, 2017 14:22:09 GMT
I destroyed a list with one using Fyanna in Ravens. In the end I just cleared zones and won on Scenario, and the Cricket was forced to aim just to have a chance at hitting me on feat turn so it was nowhere near a circle. The thing needs good targets which can make it devastating against Legion, but Ravens does a good job of denying it any fun. interesting. He wasn't playing Kaelyssa then. My local elf player has two with Kae, because refuge allows them to aim and get into zones.
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Post by Danx-not loggedin on Sept 24, 2017 18:42:39 GMT
A 3 man single wound shield guard unit might be nice. Minion farrow unit out at Christmas
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twity
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Post by twity on Sept 24, 2017 19:11:44 GMT
I destroyed a list with one using Fyanna in Ravens. In the end I just cleared zones and won on Scenario, and the Cricket was forced to aim just to have a chance at hitting me on feat turn so it was nowhere near a circle. The thing needs good targets which can make it devastating against Legion, but Ravens does a good job of denying it any fun. interesting. He wasn't playing Kaelyssa then. My local elf player has two with Kae, because refuge allows them to aim and get into zones. No, it was Ossyan. Still, a swarm with Ravens can quickly block all viable options for getting into a zone. If they are going to get a shot onto you regardless you may as well saturated with targets and restrict movement. This doesn't really work with an oracles list, but a list with more expendable models can pull it off quite well. I usually saturate with feated blight wasps, and bring in some stride scouts if I need it to plug holes.
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Post by maximumhippo on Sept 25, 2017 0:01:28 GMT
interesting. He wasn't playing Kaelyssa then. My local elf player has two with Kae, because refuge allows them to aim and get into zones. No, it was Ossyan. Still, a swarm with Ravens can quickly block all viable options for getting into a zone. If they are going to get a shot onto you regardless you may as well saturated with targets and restrict movement. This doesn't really work with an oracles list, but a list with more expendable models can pull it off quite well. I usually saturate with feated blight wasps, and bring in some stride scouts if I need it to plug holes. The two guys that play ret in my meta say basically ignore them. on one hand, if i can't deal with it, then that's not a terrible plan. On the other hand, the shots are such high pow and have such utility that it's really hard to try and deal with other stuff when those shots are coming in. My current pair is Abby2 in Oracles and Thags2 in Children. I'm sort of working on having more infantry in the Thagrosh list as often enough I find the BFS just isn't enough bodies. I've bounced between swordsmen, hex hunters and even Legionnaires. I could bring back my Lylyth2 Ravens list with all the Grotesques though. That might be fun.
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