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Post by darkshroud on Sept 22, 2017 17:22:40 GMT
privateerpress.com/community/privateer-insider/insider-09-22-2017" Black Ogrun, Blighted Trollkin, and Scharde models, the Black Fleet Raiders doesn’t have the largest selection of options. . . yet." " take one Mercenary unit and one Mercenary solo. In addition, the Devil’s Shadow Mutineers becomes a Cryx unit choice in a Slaughter Fleet Raiders force rather than a Mercenary unit choice" "for every 20 points you spend on Cryx units, you get to add one Cryx solo or command attachment to the army for free." "warjacks in the theme force pick up Gang Fighter, giving them +2 to attack and damage rolls when making melee attacks against enemy models within the melee range of another friendly Faction warrior model. Combine that with +2˝ of deployment zone"
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Post by darkshroud on Sept 22, 2017 17:37:18 GMT
so now we have a theme that protects our jacks.
we have another that helps them actually hit and do damage.
/notbadobama
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Post by marke on Sept 22, 2017 17:38:24 GMT
Without seeing the new releases fully cemented, I have to say "meh". Gang Fighter on jacks doesn't feel like enough. Hitting hard isn't what Cryx is lacking. BI seems much better than this one.
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Post by darkshroud on Sept 22, 2017 17:38:59 GMT
yea, that was my impression too.
same level as IM?
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Post by tesoe on Sept 22, 2017 17:41:27 GMT
Really, another theme insider for us. I'm starting to feel bad for the factions being ignored by these.
*Edit now that I've read the insider: We'll that was utterly boring. The theme is made up of our models most in need of a boost, and does nothing for them.
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Post by darkshroud on Sept 22, 2017 17:50:09 GMT
Really, another theme insider for us. I'm starting to feel bad for the factions being ignored by these. i mean, everyone is going to get themes by the end of the month, right? so those other factions will get theirs soon enough. |
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Post by mberks69 on Sept 22, 2017 17:57:11 GMT
I'm a bit confused by this theme. The keynote mentioned Black Fleet Raiders, which had Ogrun and Trollblood Cryx and implied Satyxis too. This takes part of that to make a theme? Shick almost seems to imply there is a connection in the Insider. Just curious, am I missing something?
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Post by darkshroud on Sept 22, 2017 17:59:09 GMT
nopes. if they included raiders, most people wouldnt take anything else. so they get their own theme.
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Post by tesoe on Sept 22, 2017 18:10:11 GMT
So I don't see why anyone is going to play this. It's barely better than just playing out of theme.
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Post by darkshroud on Sept 22, 2017 18:14:19 GMT
free points +2 deploy and +2 atk and dam when a jack hits something thats engages by a dude?
i wouldnt call that barely better.
just because its not, jacks get carpace, doesnt mean its barely better.
also, we havent seen all the releases yet.
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Post by tiberius on Sept 22, 2017 18:26:14 GMT
Warjacks with gang fighter is really good, however, getting those specific models in place to use it can be problematic considering most of them are medium based models. This may have some interesting synergies against light warbeast or light warjack spam. Real them in with ogrun and clean up with a jack. Unfortunately, they jacks do not get the gang fighter with each other, only with a warrior model that already has gang. Does that mean the trolls are getting gang back? Or is the theme alleviating that requirement and just saying they get it with whomever?
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Post by Kavrae on Sept 22, 2017 18:28:11 GMT
Warjacks with gang fighter is really good, however, getting those specific models in place to use it can be problematic considering most of them are medium based models. This may have some interesting synergies against light warbeast or light warjack spam. Real them in with ogrun and clean up with a jack. Unfortunately, they jacks do not get the gang fighter with each other, only with a warrior model that already has gang. Does that mean the trolls are getting gang back? Or is the theme alleviating that requirement and just saying they get it with whomever? The impression I got was that it's a one-sided gang bonus. Warjacks get the +2/+2 bonus when fighting near infantry, but infantry don't get a bonus for fighting near warjacks. |
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Post by darkshroud on Sept 22, 2017 18:34:33 GMT
Warjacks with gang fighter is really good, however, getting those specific models in place to use it can be problematic considering most of them are medium based models. This may have some interesting synergies against light warbeast or light warjack spam. Real them in with ogrun and clean up with a jack. Unfortunately, they jacks do not get the gang fighter with each other, only with a warrior model that already has gang. Does that mean the trolls are getting gang back? Or is the theme alleviating that requirement and just saying they get it with whomever? how many people use lights? |
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Post by tesoe on Sept 22, 2017 18:46:23 GMT
This has got me really salty. PP looked at models that have been garbage since MK2 and decided all a theme built around them should give them is 2" deployment.
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Post by tiberius on Sept 22, 2017 18:58:09 GMT
Yes, sorry, that was poorly worded on my part. I meant to question if the jacks would only get the bonus if the warrior model in question already had gang (per gang fighter rules) or if the theme bonus was changing the core rule of gang fighter to allow the jacks to get it with any faction friendly warrior model. Its clear to me now that they get it with any faction friendly warrior model, with or without gang. Gang on the blighted trollkin would actually make me want to put them back on the field. Right now they just don't bring enough, especially with the hit to tough.
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