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Post by Arjac Ironside on Sept 12, 2017 16:47:00 GMT
Need pairing help. List 1 Vlad1 Jaws. List 2  List 1: Vladimir Tzepesci, The Dark Prince +28 -War Doge -0 -Marauder -10 -Marauder -10 -Marauder -10 -Marauder -10 -Marauder -10 -Juggernaut -12 -Kodiak -13 Greylord Forge Seer -0 -Behemoth -25 Greylord Forge Seer -0 Widowmaker Marksman -0 Battle Mechaniks (min) -3 I need something to pair with this mess. Last time I looked (which was a while ago now.) Winterguard were all the rage and I've made several theory lists with B3 or I2 in winter wonderland theme. I've also heard the new MoW theme may be the new hotness but I'm not sure if I want to bank on a yet unseen theme. So what do you guys think would cover the weaknesses of the above list? What should this list not play into? |
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Post by smoothcriminal on Sept 12, 2017 20:46:59 GMT
I think this list will have good times against shooting and generic armies, but bad times against better battlegroup lists who threat longer like Legion, Circle, etc. or weaponmaster spam like banes and fangs.
WGK with B3 (since you can't take V1 in it) or Strakhov 2 fangs should play those matchups better.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Sept 12, 2017 21:17:20 GMT
This list would absolutely crush most stuff I see from Circle, and I'd feel comfortable dropping it into a lot of Legion stuff. The feat turn is alpha city with universal 12" threat ranges, and spot application of boundless charge if you really need it.
It will suffer into Cryx, and other stuff which hates jacks. I pair a similarish Jaws Karchev list with Butcher 3 in WGK (4 jacks) and like that pairing personally.
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Post by smoothcriminal on Sept 12, 2017 22:17:22 GMT
Circle threats 13" though without caster buffs, you're missing it a lot and after you boundless + s&p to be able to get them you can't load up more than 1 jack.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Sept 12, 2017 23:25:34 GMT
Circle threats 13" though without caster buffs, you're missing it a lot and after you boundless + s&p to be able to get them you can't load up more than 1 jack. But with how many beasts? This list just has...so many! Note: in my Karchev list I have double Eliminators. Sometimes I just run them to jam up important beasts who could alpha my sorry butt. And with Legion I am not above running them to make sure important targets don't sprint/dodge away. |
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Post by Arjac Ironside on Sept 13, 2017 0:34:45 GMT
So I see B3 mentioned alot as a pair. (here and fb). Would this list work to cover the weaknesses of the first?
Butcher Unleashed +22
-War Argus
-War Doge -3
-Ruin -17
-Kodiak -13
Winter Guard Fun Carriage -17
Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich -4
Winter Guard ROFL Corps -13
-Rocketeer -2
-Rocketeer -2
-Rocketeer -2
Winter Guard Infantry -10
-Rocketeer -2
-Rocketeer -2
-Rocketeer -2
-Officer & Standard -0
Winter Guard Mortar Crew -0
Winter Guard Mortar Crew -0
Winter Guard Field Gun Crew -4
Winter Guard Field Gun Crew -4
75/75
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Post by smoothcriminal on Sept 13, 2017 22:38:03 GMT
Yeah, should work.
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Post by Ganso on Sept 13, 2017 23:06:02 GMT
I'm pairing my Vlad_1 Jaws with Irusk_2 WGK. No real reason for it, I just really like Irusk_2  |
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Post by Arjac Ironside on Sept 14, 2017 13:21:13 GMT
See I considered basically the list above with Irusk2 but when I looked at it, it wasn't immediately obvious how the list ends games. It just seems to lack punch to finish things, sure there are bodies everywhere but just seems like it's missing something. By putting B3 in there the masses of bodies become a butcher delivery device, which then asks a definitive question of can you chew through all that before butcher gets you?
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Post by Arjac Ironside on Sept 29, 2017 2:52:07 GMT
I got to test out the vlad1 jaws list and holy cow it is as terrifying on the table as I hoped it would be.
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