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Post by redbaron89 on Sept 7, 2017 2:03:35 GMT
Tried the cotd kallus 2 build. Works pretty well. I want to try him in ravens with an all raek battlegroup(might swap in a bolt thrower as hes great for procing overrun)
Kallus 2 wb 28
Raekx5 40
Assassin free
Deathstalkerx2 free
Martyrx2
Raiders 12
Raptorx2 36
Striders+ua 13
Idea is Raeks and striders help spread blazing path, jam, score circle zones, clear chaff, and paint heavy targets. Raiders and raptors help drop heavier targets with battle lust. A fair amount of solos and units for scoring scenario. Martyrs help cycle overrun and battle lust as needed. Could swap one raek and 2 martyrs for blight blades.
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newsun
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Post by newsun on Sept 8, 2017 2:03:17 GMT
This looks like it will struggle with armour skew. If you don't drop a heavy it likely kills all raptors it engaged with trivially. Having some punch with azrael is probably better.
Also why striders instead of swords?
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Post by redbaron89 on Sept 8, 2017 3:20:58 GMT
Its in the ravens theme. Def 15 striders jam pretty hard and make use of blazing path. They are also solid into idrians, reeves, winterguard, stormfalls. Id put swordsmen in if the theme allowed them. Ive been playing kallus 2 in cotd with azrael, zuriel, boltthrower, swordsmen+ua and double raptors. Just trying something new.
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Post by princeraven on Sept 8, 2017 14:29:17 GMT
I'm worried Kallus wouldn't be able to run that many Raeks without any fury management, why not drop a Spell Martyr and two Raeks for an Angelius to have a solid Overrun target and a smaller battlegroup?
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Post by skb on Sept 9, 2017 10:43:35 GMT
I play 3 raek 2 naga with the rest very similar. 4-5 battlelusted grots take a heavy. Dont look at this and asume it wont take heavies. It really will.
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Sept 9, 2017 18:59:48 GMT
War Room Army
Legion of Everblight - K2 BB n Boxes
Theme: No Theme Selected
75 / 75 Army
Kallus, Devastation of Everblight - WB: +28
- Succubus - PC: 4
- Blightbringer - PC: 38 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
- Seraph - PC: 14
Warmonger War Chief - PC: 6
The Forsaken - PC: 4
The Forsaken - PC: 4
Spell Martyr - PC: 1
Spell Martyr - PC: 1
Blighted Nyss Shepherd - PC: 1
Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9
Blighted Ogrun Warmongers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9
Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 6
Hellmouth - Hellmouth & 3 Tentacles: 6
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GENERATED : 09/09/2017 09:46:26
BUILD ID : 2047.17-07-25
Also could swap out seraph to make two full units of warmongers, also can swap out forsaken for DBL stalkers
Who doesn't like pow 18 weapon masters?
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Post by snotling on Sept 9, 2017 19:39:46 GMT
I dont see what the warmongers do, thatcswordmen wouldnt do better?
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Post by piedpiperwtf on Sept 9, 2017 21:40:06 GMT
I dont see what the warmongers do, thatcswordmen wouldnt do better? Pow 18 charging in with 4 dice is better Imo than pow 11 charging in with 5 dice, they have the same threat range, and there is far more boxes to chew through using the Warmongers at arm 18. |
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Post by redbaron89 on Sept 9, 2017 22:02:37 GMT
Getting ready for the new ogrun theme i see.  Ive never seen warmongers on the table. Id love to do a miserable meat mountain list with a bunch of durable medium and large bases. Cant wait for ogrun centaurs with kallus 2! |
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Post by chillychinaman on Sept 9, 2017 22:18:25 GMT
I dont see what the warmongers do, thatcswordmen wouldnt do better? Pow 18 charging in with 4 dice is better Imo than pow 11 charging in with 5 dice, they have the same threat range, and there is far more boxes to chew through using the Warmongers at arm 18. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be 14/4d6 vs 13/5d6? Warmongers have POWERFUL charge as opposed to BRUTAL charge, which when combined with BB aura would get you to 18, but conversely the Swords should be PS13. You can also fit more Swords around an enemy counteracting their lower individual strength. Also, casualties before arrival, which will happen, are more easily absorbed with 10 models vs only 5. |
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Post by redbaron89 on Sept 10, 2017 1:49:56 GMT
Played a variant of the above kallus 2 list into my buddies issyria gunline list. I swapped a raek and 2 martyrs for blightblades. My friend was running afg (that thing is near impossible to remove!), several thunderbolt lights, hemera, halbadiers, stormfall, and dragoon. The store closed before we finished but it was a close match.
List thoughts:
Kallus 2: Functioned as a battle lust bot for raptors. Upkept blazing path. Camping 2 most of the game and hiding behind a forest.
Raptors: blinding lighted ones hit hemera very hard with battle lust crippling the heavy with just 2 and assasin. Sniped out a few stormfalls on non blinding light unit. Stayed back most game away from guns.
Striders: killed stormfalls and jammed halbadiers with blazing path for devasting feat. Repo 3 on halbs mitigated feat somewhat.
Raeks-2 raeks unjammed raptors and deathstalkers from dragoon. Raek with overrun killed 3 halbs. Over run raek painted hemera with fire. Allowing raptors to benifit from feat. Helped spread feat. Could have played them better overall
Raiders- ambushed and ran to engage stormfall archer and heavy sniper team.
Blightblades- ambushed in back running to threat issyria and other archer team. Didnt do much as game ended.
Deathstalkersx2- poor dice rolls killed 1 halbs between two of them. Theyve been pure money in the past. Dice happen.
Overall- id drop blightblades and possibly add anyssa to benift raptors and assist deathstalkers. Id also add two martyrs for early brand of fire or to help cycle overrun and battle lust. Succubus, shepherd, forsaken, or bolthrower in place of raek might not be too bad either.
Had issues removing afg. I know from prior experience to run up and engage it so it cant benifit from aiming bonuses but how are you guys dealing with this $%#*/@.
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Post by snotling on Sept 10, 2017 5:39:32 GMT
I dont see what the warmongers do, thatcswordmen wouldnt do better? Pow 18 charging in with 4 dice is better Imo than pow 11 charging in with 5 dice, they have the same threat range, and there is far more boxes to chew through using the Warmongers at arm 18. I think your math is off here. And there are still two swordmen for every ogrun. And with withering ash, they fare better vs shooting than the ogrun. I wish ogrun had a place right now. Lets hope for the theme! |
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Ive never seen warmongers on the table. Id love to do a miserable meat mountain list with a bunch of durable medium and large bases. Cant wait for ogrun centaurs with kallus 2!