regleant
Junior Strategist
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Post by regleant on Aug 30, 2017 10:22:14 GMT
Quite honestly, every time I have him in the table in my Winds of Death list, I'm disappointed. But people love him. Why? I'm about to switch him out for a Willbreaker....
Is he just there for Veteran Leader? Because he's a Ranged Weaponmaster? How are people using him?
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cassus
Junior Strategist
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Post by cassus on Aug 30, 2017 11:30:39 GMT
Personally I never use either of his star actions as a weapon master POW12 shot into most heavies will do work, especially if your running Hexy1 or Rasheth who debuff armor. When I don't have them putting holes in heavies, I run 2 in my lists, I typically have at least one of them running with my slingers to buff them up to rat 6 so they can hit things. Solo sniping is also a fairly good job for them.
For a 4 point solo they are fairly hard to remove at range especially under a Krea aura.
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Post by dessert hydra on Aug 30, 2017 13:19:45 GMT
I'm only theory machine here. I've just picked one up for my winds list, but they way I see it any boosted guns should be able to remove him trivially so he's not a front line solo by any stretch. He's got decent chip damage on a heavy but his spot removal is slightly hurt by RAT7 he's not probably touching a deathstalker at DEF15 or a gremlin swarm even with eyeless sight.
His vet leader I think makes the slingers work and also means your not having to CRA as much on the reivers.
IMHO I see him hanging back providing vet leader and then being a good late game piece chip damage/scenario pressure and if your opponent wants him gone make him get out of position to get him etc.
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granor
Junior Strategist
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Post by granor on Aug 30, 2017 14:24:47 GMT
I use him as a vet leader bot. His gun is super good though so I use that too but don't go out of my way for it. My next winds list I am going to try hexy2 with the flayer cannons we will see if his desperate pace is good
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Post by drillbossd on Sept 1, 2017 15:29:03 GMT
Vet leader bot, solo for scenario, Dark Ritual node with boxes, solo hunter, or dings heavies. On "the big turn" with Rasheth I definitely want his shot going into The Target if I'm focus firing, and with the built in 18" threat that's usually not an issue. The flip side is that if I need the slingers to go before feat for arcing purposes I may activate the Dakar early to get him into position. In that case he might give a Slinger flarebot a reroll.
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Post by toconut on Sept 2, 2017 20:21:25 GMT
I have 2 main uses for him:
1) vet leader bot. Playing 22 reivers and 6 slingers his +1 to hit is better than most spells my caster has. Factor in that I run 2 cannons and his presence is essential to the power of the list.
2) when I see a stealth model, like a heavy jack or a BE, I usually give eyeless sight to a slinger, rerolls with the dakaar and suddenly I have 2 attempts at rat 6 (sometimes 8) to remove it. Needless to say that said heavy usually dies.
He also has a good gun and +2" on cannons has been useful, expecially first turn
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