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Post by red toad on Aug 17, 2017 18:55:25 GMT
what suggestions do you have for a good offlist for this butcher list? Situation is its for a friend and hes never going to go out and buy 3 units of rifle corp for a winterguard spam style list. So to better explain do you have a budget friendly suggestion of an offlist for this list (my friend owns one of every unit in khador but refuses to buy multiples of units due to price). Thanks  War Room Army Khador - butcher3 Theme: Jaws of the Wolf 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Kommander Zoktavir, the Butcher Unleashed - WJ: +22 - War Argus - Ruin - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 17) - Kodiak - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 5) - Behemoth - PC: 25 - Juggernaut - PC: 12 - Juggernaut - PC: 12 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Battle Mechaniks - Leader & 3 Grunts: 3 Kayazy Assassins - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Kayazy Assassin Underboss - PC: 0 THEME: Jaws of the Wolf --- GENERATED : 08/17/2017 11:44:29 BUILD ID : 2047.17-07-25 |
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Post by tsunami1k on Aug 17, 2017 20:48:07 GMT
What about a Legion List like:
War Room Army
Khador - Strak2(copy)
Theme: Legion of Steel
3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Assault Kommander Strakhov & Kommandos - WJ: +22
- Assault Kommander Strakhov & Kommandos (Cont.)
- Kodiak - PC: 13 (Battlegroup Points Used: 13)
- Juggernaut - PC: 12 (Battlegroup Points Used: 9)
Iron Fang Kovnik - PC: 0
Uhlan Kovnik Markov - PC: 7
Iron Fang Kovnik - PC: 4
Black Dragons - Leader & 9 Grunts: 17
- Black Dragon Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 0
Iron Fang Pikemen - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15
- Iron Fang Pikemen Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 0
Great Bears of the Gallowswood - Volkov, Kolsk, & Yarovich: 9
Iron Fang Uhlans - Leader & 4 Grunts: 20
THEME: Legion of Steel
If he only has one Kovnik then just add the 4 pts to a jack.
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Post by smoothcriminal on Aug 17, 2017 22:54:25 GMT
One can buy 2 different units of wg and a Carriage for wgk, it's okay. Or only 1 unit and Carriage and go jack heavy.
The cheapest second list would be different jack caster in jaws: Karchev, Hark, Strakhov1, Malakov, etc. Just upgrade jack count to 6-7 with Behemoth or 8-9 without and remove kayazi.
Or one can buy second kayazi unit and play Jaws infantry-heavy with Irusk2. It goes Irusk2 + Behemoth and Juggy, Seer marshalls Destroyer, 2x full kayazi, widowmakers + marksman, then whatever else.
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zeffid
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Post by zeffid on Aug 23, 2017 8:42:04 GMT
I think that best suplimentary list would be Vladimir2 with some reasonable mix of units. Out of theme. Look up for an example list by chickenslayerAlso you can explore Strakhov1 in Jaws/LoS/WGK/no Theme as a complimentary. Any Irusk is fine with combined arms. Last, I can suggest you a fine Zerkova1 LoS list with no unit duplicates: Uhlans, IFP, Kovnik, Markov, Bears and Jacks. |
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Post by benjamini on Aug 23, 2017 14:07:36 GMT
I think that best suplimentary list would be Vladimir2 with some reasonable mix of units. Out of theme. Look up for an example list by chickenslayer Also you can explore Strakhov1 in Jaws/LoS/WGK/no Theme as a complimentary. Any Irusk is fine with combined arms. Last, I can suggest you a fine Zerkova1 LoS list with no unit duplicates: Uhlans, IFP, Kovnik, Markov, Bears and Jacks. I'd be interested in seeing that Zerkova1 list even if OP is not, I don't own a second unit of IFP or Uhlans and have been trying to make something I am happy with work for LOS (Irusk 2 has been the main subject of my experiments thus far mind you). |
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zeffid
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Post by zeffid on Aug 24, 2017 11:34:25 GMT
I'm sure you can build it up easily yourself. The stapple is:
Lady Z1
Jugger for Watcher
IFP full and attach
IFU full
Markov
Bears
Kovnik
The remaining points can be spent optionally:
1) BDIFP for the 3rd free choice
2) More Jacks (I'm looking at two destroyers)
3) Conquest/Victor
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Post by benjamini on Aug 29, 2017 15:33:40 GMT
I've played around with this a bit since the last post. I really like the idea of Conquest in LoS. I've found Creeping Barrage templates can keep melee infantry at bay to help get the alpha. Doesn't help as much with shooting... but that's what clouds are for!
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zeffid
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Post by zeffid on Aug 30, 2017 12:44:02 GMT
I started with conquest but soon discarded it in favour of more boxes. Clouds are fine against melee infantry - they get -2 on attacks, remember?
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Post by benjamini on Aug 30, 2017 12:50:55 GMT
I am strictly of the "Why not both?" camp on this one. Maybe future playtesting will cause me to make the same decisions you made. We shall see.
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