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Post by mikethefish on Sept 11, 2017 0:09:50 GMT
might get resistance in the september drop. but wont be playing it until more units show up Yeah, that's nonsense. Even with the limited units available now, you can already make a better Resistance list than an Irregulars list with at least 3 of the 4 available casters. Gaston is in need of more testing (as well as seeing the final versions of all this stuff)
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studderingdave
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Post by studderingdave on Sept 11, 2017 2:08:48 GMT
I am all in on Resistance. Just gotta get these choir painted up and Caine is gonna be going batty
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Sept 11, 2017 3:00:33 GMT
Super hyped to try macbain trencher/stormblade.
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Post by Sarcastastic on Sept 11, 2017 3:02:58 GMT
You're speaking my language Isotope. (Now to acquire and get good with MacBain)
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Post by sgregorbmmd on Sept 11, 2017 3:21:49 GMT
I find it ironic (and a little sad) that it is now our faction that covets Cygnar's infantry rather than the other way around.
As for this theme though, I'm all about it. I can play my faction my way and not be penalized for it by missing out on free solos and benefits. Good enough for me.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Sept 11, 2017 3:38:08 GMT
You're speaking my language Isotope. (Now to acquire and get good with MacBain) Call me crazy but i think caine3 actually pairs with this well. Your weak matchups are grymkin, ghost fleet and legion. I think a caine3 list can be crafted to play into those matchups.
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Post by Sarcastastic on Sept 11, 2017 4:45:21 GMT
You're speaking my language Isotope. (Now to acquire and get good with MacBain) Call me crazy but i think caine3 actually pairs with this well. Your weak matchups are grymkin, ghost fleet and legion. I think a caine3 list can be crafted to play into those matchups. This sounds hilariously like playing a Cygnar pairing outside of Cygnar, and I love it. Now to also consider picking up and getting good with Caine3.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Sept 11, 2017 4:50:39 GMT
Call me crazy but i think caine3 actually pairs with this well. Your weak matchups are grymkin, ghost fleet and legion. I think a caine3 list can be crafted to play into those matchups. This sounds hilariously like playing a Cygnar pairing outside of Cygnar, and I love it. Now to also consider picking up and getting good with Caine3. I played him in mercs into grymkin at NOVA. If i did one think different i win the game. It was only my second game into grymkin. I think i know how to play that matchup from now on. King of nothing can cast a spell when you kill one of his crabbits... but if you run orin midwinter within 3" of him... he cant go anywhere.
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Post by redbaron89 on Sept 18, 2017 5:19:30 GMT
Damiano irregulars list incoming...
Damiano wj 28 irregulers
Nomadx3 33 Idrians x2 30 Uax2 free Croes cuthroats 16 Steelhead halbs x2 22 Dominatorx2 2 Rupert carvalo free Slys or lanyssa
Dont know how it competes with kingmaker. 30+ guys advance deploy. Feel like losing tactician from stannis the mannis hurts, cloud walls,p and rangers as a ranged force multiplier hurts but having access to idrians, 50 dudez, and pathfinder from carvalo is nice.
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Post by gobber on Sept 18, 2017 5:34:58 GMT
Damiano irregulars list incoming... Damiano wj 28 irregulers Dominatorx2 2 Still can't use dominators outside of operating theater. Take tinker instead?
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Post by redbaron89 on Sept 20, 2017 2:44:45 GMT
Ossrum list wj 28
Drillerx3 30 Gunnerx5 30 Eriyss 1 free Kell free Alten free Forge guard 16 Idrians 15 Ua free Artillery corpsx2 12
Idea is cast snipe on idrians, drillers for armor breaking, tag team kell, alten, eiryss. Cycle fire for effect on artillery corps. Forge guard via tactician help break armor and jammers. Gun bunnies support shooting.
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Post by pattison on Sept 20, 2017 9:45:14 GMT
I'm just wondering if 25 free points is a-okay with PP. Isn't this getting out of hand? I remember when we played 50 point games in MKII and some themes could get 4-5 free points. Everyone were out of their minds. I mean should this really be for free just for bringing any kind of units and warjacks for all your points? Alten Ashley [0(6)] Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios [0(7)] Hutchuck, Ogrun Bounty Hunter [0(6)] Savio Montero Acosta [0(6)]
And if I'm not trying to max out on free points just going for really useful stuff I can still have a MacBain list like this:
(MacBain 1) Drake MacBain [+30] - Galleon [39] - Nomad [11] - Nomad [11] Alten Ashley [0(6)] Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios [0(7)] Kell Bailoch [0(5)] Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress [4] Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor [0(5)] Alexia Ciannor & the Risen [10] Idrian Skirmishers (max) [15] - Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide [5] Kayazy Eliminators [5] Kayazy Eliminators [5]
Madness I say.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Sept 20, 2017 10:28:53 GMT
I'm just wondering if 25 free points is a-okay with PP. Isn't this getting out of hand? I remember when we played 50 point games in MKII and some themes could get 4-5 free points. Everyone were out of their minds. I mean should this really be for free just for bringing any kind of units and warjacks for all your points? Alten Ashley [0(6)] Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios [0(7)] Hutchuck, Ogrun Bounty Hunter [0(6)] Savio Montero Acosta [0(6)] And if I'm not trying to max out on free points just going for really useful stuff I can still have a MacBain list like this: (MacBain 1) Drake MacBain [+30] - Galleon [39] - Nomad [11] - Nomad [11] Alten Ashley [0(6)] Eiryss, Mage Hunter of Ios [0(7)] Kell Bailoch [0(5)] Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress [4] Orin Midwinter, Rogue Inquisitor [0(5)] Alexia Ciannor & the Risen [10] Idrian Skirmishers (max) [15] - Idrian Skirmisher Chieftain & Guide [5] Kayazy Eliminators [5] Kayazy Eliminators [5] Madness I say. I think its fine in this instance, lots of other theme forces get 3 free slots easily, 4 is not such a huge jump. Also to get 4 free slots you are missing out on potentially taking the Battle Engine, any of the Lesser Warlocks, and you are capped at 5 solos max (4 free slots and then most likely a 3 or 4 point solos depending on how many warjack points you have)
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Post by pattison on Sept 20, 2017 11:28:16 GMT
5 solos is enough even with MacBain imho. WeSj is nice to have and MacBain likes them too but I can live without lessers just fine. The BEs are having their time in the sun although I think they currently became overpowered / undercosted.
I also understand that practically all armies are now playing of +10-15 points but I really don't know if this is a good trend. But I also believe that Cygnar should never-ever get a Squire and a Junior for free, so I'm kind of a conservative.
And yeah, vanilla Mercs is just 100% obsolete with Irregulards.
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Post by 36cygnar24guy36 on Sept 20, 2017 11:40:33 GMT
5 solos is enough even with MacBain imho. WeSj is nice to have and MacBain likes them too but I can live without lessers just fine. The BEs are having their time in the sun although I think they currently became overpowered / undercosted. I also understand that practically all armies are now playing of +10-15 points but I really don't know if this is a good trend. But I also believe that Cygnar should never-ever get a Squire and a Junior for free, so I'm kind of a conservative. And yeah, vanilla Mercs is just 100% obsolete with Irregulards. why should Cygnar not get the Squire and Junior for free? they are 5 and 4 points respectively, as you said Irregulars are getting 7 and 6 point options. Imperial Warhost and Dark Industries can both take 3 x 7 point models for free, which works out at 21 points for free, more than the maximum of 17 free points in Heavy Metal. Is it that the Squire and Junior are too good? last time I checked Eiryss 1, Nightwretchs' or Basilisk Kreas' were pretty good as well.
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