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Post by redbaron89 on Aug 6, 2017 2:29:23 GMT
Got a friend who is running rahn to great succuss. Ive only had a few fights against him but am having difficulty finishing him. Runs double mittens double dawnguard setinels. What casters, tech, tactics, and list types should i bring to deal with him?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 5:37:41 GMT
stealth. he has no way of dealing with stealth. raptors and annyssa to shoot up mittens. twins have the tools, with occultation and banishing ward. but its still a game. use terrain to help shut down shenanigans and line of sight.
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Post by redbaron89 on Aug 7, 2017 0:30:03 GMT
He just has alot of vectors and litterally pulls your battlegroup apart. Im playing an mostly all stealth twins list. Ill give it another try. Im hoping minion cid goes through so i can add sacral vault and arcane vortex to my thags cotd list. Itd help me counter both rahn and issyria.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 2:18:28 GMT
yeah. how many arc nodes is he running? sacral vault would be a great piece against that list. since the twins like to run out of theme anyway, i don't see any reason to not add it in there. what's your list?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 2:39:58 GMT
Also, what is his the rest of his list? Helios/no helios?
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Post by redbaron89 on Aug 7, 2017 4:42:00 GMT
His list:(varies)
Hemera
Chimera
Or
2x phoenix
Dawnguard setinals+uax2
Battle magesx2
Stormfall archers
My twins list (borrowed from jvm)
Zuriel 18
Seraph 14
Protector 10
Naga 8
Wrongeye 17
Deathstalkerx2 8
Anyssa 8
Assasinx2 8
Totem hunter 6
Martyrx2 2
I played one game of twins against rahn. Lost to an careless assasination. Ive learned since then to screen seraph and protector with stealth models. Throw banishing ward on zuriel and occultation on twins. I think the twins into rahn are more than solid. His other pairing is issyria which i feel is not a favorable match up. Ive got fyaana 2 for her and a majority of my matchups.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 5:57:33 GMT
hemera/chimera combo is pretty solid. chimera is somewhat easy to scalpel, but hemera is a different story. that is a pretty sweet jack.
the other idea that comes to mind easily is lylyth 3. assassinate him. but it sounds like you have a pretty good handle on the matchup. just need a little more practice. rahn has so many angles. and that is a tough list. sentinels are self sufficient, and threat all our stuff. so its figuring out what to triage and prioritize targets.
Have you tried psychic vampire yet in the matchup? occultation or banishing ward is strictly better, but I always wondered if there was a real opportunity to get value out of it. its seems like you would need the perfect situation for it to actually have any effect though ie. giant forest to hide behind and no arc nodes to run in.
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Post by DanX on Aug 7, 2017 9:58:35 GMT
I like playing Saeryn1, Throne of everblight and some other bits and pieces into Rhan. Throne and the model (Zuriel/Carnivian) with banishing ward are reasonably safe from battlemages. They out threat the sentinels. You get to hide behind the throne with other pieces, and when you feat your stuff can not easily be removed by even feated battle mages - which is neat. Witch on Hellion is very good vs Sentinels.
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Post by Cheesebeard on Aug 7, 2017 16:15:09 GMT
Legion 101:
Matchup's not great? Assassinate.
Vayl2 is my preferred, but we're not lacking in such tools.
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Post by mrfantastical on Aug 10, 2017 3:51:58 GMT
I cam here looking for Rahn suggestions, and see that everyone is having problems. I'm not sure about Vayl2 2 since Ret has a lot of magic denial in faction. Even if Vayl2 was amazing against Rahn, with my luck my opponent would drop Goreshade 3, and I'm screwed.
I know that Abby 2 plays well into Ret in general because of Bracers.
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Post by newsun on Aug 10, 2017 5:01:11 GMT
Rahn will probably get a bead on you at some point. Keep transfer targets available and fury on your lock. Shielding with cheap chaff to prevent some of the movement can also help. Meanwhile focus on winning attrition. Kill the arc nodes if you can.
Abby2 does have game. Watch out for soulless in units making alpha hunter harder to get off even with martyrs.
Once the nodes are dead, the threat is much less.
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Post by mallios on Aug 10, 2017 9:58:59 GMT
Watch out for soulless in units making alpha hunter harder to get off even with martyrs. Why would soulless prevent Alpha Hunter? |
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Post by redbaron89 on Aug 10, 2017 14:30:37 GMT
Souless escort mage static reduces spells range by -5. Makes hex bolt from abby 2 range 1.
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Post by mallios on Aug 10, 2017 16:21:58 GMT
I thought Newsun meant the Soulless advantage...
Nm
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Post by mrfantastical on Aug 11, 2017 14:19:37 GMT
I've been thinking about Abby 2 with at least 1 Archangel to hide behind. Maybe Bracers on the Archangel, since it can't be placed, blocks LOS. Should take away a lot of options for Rahn/Ret.
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