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Post by Forged on Aug 6, 2017 2:03:51 GMT
I am looking for an easy pairing for my karchev list as I tend to clock myself playing lots of models and when I would use such a list. Very rarely do I feel I am at a disadvantage playing karchev.
*Jaws of the Wolf*
Karchev +30
Kodiak 13
Kodiak 13
Juggernaut 12
Juggernaut 12
Marauder 10
Marauder 10
Greylord Forge Seer (4)
+Behemoth 25
Greylord Forge Seer (4)
Widow Maker Marksman (4)
Kayazy Eliminator 5
Kayazy Eliminator 5
I mostly face Legion and Cryx but am planning to attend a Master event and would like a pairing to practice with and a clear idea of when I would drop it. I started at the end of Mk2 and primarily played MoW spam, but until the MoW theme and Sorscha3 I feel I'd be playing at a large disadvantage.
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Post by kovnikninehouse on Aug 6, 2017 4:30:24 GMT
If facing a lot of legion or cryx you may want to look at ether Strakhov1 or Strakhov2.
The main reason he is immune to fire and corrosion.
You could do a Strak1 winterguard theme with a gun carriage and Strak1 works well with the Malakov jr that you can play in the list to keep your model count down. I would add one of each of the weapon crews. To give your jacks some advanced moves.
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Post by kovnikninehouse on Aug 6, 2017 4:34:54 GMT
So here is a low model Strak1 winterguard theme list I just threw together.
War Room Army
Khador - Strak1 winterguard low model count
Theme: Winter Guard Kommand
1 / 1 Free Cards 74 / 75 Army
Kommander Oleg Strakhov - WJ: +28
- Conquest - PC: 37 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28)
- Torch - PC: 18
- Marauder - PC: 10
Winter Guard Gun Carriage - PC: 17
Kovnik Andrei Malakov - PC: 4
- Juggernaut - PC: 12
Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0
Winter Guard Field Gun Crew - Gunner & 2 Grunts: 4
THEME: Winter Guard Kommand
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GENERATED : 08/06/2017 00:34:42
BUILD ID : 2047.17-07-25
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kaos
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Post by kaos on Aug 6, 2017 4:59:36 GMT
To look into pairings you need to see what you usually struggle with. After Karchev need, I found struggling versus high def legion and circle beasts (legion to be honest isn't much of a issue) and cygnar control. Cygnar slow you down or push you out of zones, so it's a pain.
Cryx themes are also going to be a pain but to tech vs then I suggest to read the discussion, is a complicated matter.
Butcher 3 looks a good caster to pair, unless you want to play irusk 2 or vlad 1 with fireworks spam. Is a horrible skew yes, but isn't difficult to play and you can look at taking a potshot at a caster and kill him in the process.
Mostly it boils down to which models are available to you.
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Post by Armchair Warrior on Aug 6, 2017 14:50:49 GMT
I am looking for an easy pairing for my karchev list as I tend to clock myself playing lots of models and when I would use such a list. Very rarely do I feel I am at a disadvantage playing karchev. *Jaws of the Wolf* Karchev +30 Kodiak 13 Kodiak 13 Juggernaut 12 Juggernaut 12 Marauder 10 Marauder 10 Greylord Forge Seer (4) +Behemoth 25 Greylord Forge Seer (4) Widow Maker Marksman (4) Kayazy Eliminator 5 Kayazy Eliminator 5 I mostly face Legion and Cryx but am planning to attend a Master event and would like a pairing to practice with and a clear idea of when I would drop it. I started at the end of Mk2 and primarily played MoW spam, but until the MoW theme and Sorscha3 I feel I'd be playing at a large disadvantage. Your Karchev list is a good Legion drop. Countercharge is great against low model count armies, especially when beasts have dodge. Speaking from experience I'd say that list will do well into most lower model count armies, and horses in general. It will struggle into Cryx. 7 warjacks without RFP can't (can't) play into a good Ghost Fleet player. I also wonder about Dark Host but haven't played it yet. So I think you need a Cryx drop that can also handle weaponmaster dude spam. I play Karchev as my Masters anchor so I've thought a lot about this and concluded (for now) that B3 is out best option. This is my build. War Room Army Khador - Butcher 3 WGK w GC Theme: Winter Guard Kommand 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Kommander Zoktavir, the Butcher Unleashed - WJ: +22 - War Argus - War Dog - PC: 3 - Ruin - PC: 17 (Battlegroup Points Used: 17) - Marauder - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 5) - Kodiak - PC: 13 - Kodiak - PC: 13 Winter Guard Gun Carriage - PC: 17 Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich - PC: 4 Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0 Winter Guard Mortar Crew - Gunner & Grunt: 0 Winter Guard Infantry - Leader & 9 Grunts: 10 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Rocketeer - PC: 2 - Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard - Officer & Standard: 4 The thread on Ghost Fleet has my thinking on why with others giving good comments. |
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Post by Mr.Human on Aug 8, 2017 7:09:58 GMT
Definitely go Harkevich with jaws theme. And I'd go WG theme with Karchev and a minimum squad of WG so you can have him upfront without being a good target to shoot at. Drop Behe in his list and add juggs if you got em. Harks could have those jacks with him, change the greylords to widowmakers and a marksman or so (Didn't check your points).
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