Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Aug 1, 2017 9:02:00 GMT
This week we look at the oncoming Dark Host
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Post by mrmayhem on Aug 1, 2017 17:51:31 GMT
 Seriously though, great article. No misses with this blog. |
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Post by allinontrolls on Aug 1, 2017 18:13:14 GMT
i really like your article. I am testing a post CID grim1 Version. I really think he is able to deal with cryx.
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Post by macdaddy on Aug 1, 2017 19:24:43 GMT
I really liked this article! Even me being a circle player seeing your opinion and how you tech for dark host helps me in my list building I too watched the cryx CiD with dread as cryx players complained about underpowered banes. What is going to ensue with dark host theme is not going to be fun for anyone....meanwhile players continue to complain about madrack 1 even ground and battle bears  |
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Aug 1, 2017 19:30:58 GMT
I disagree with the assessment about Grim2 into Dark Host. As far as I can tell without consulting War Room, you have exactly 1 magical gun. If they're playing double Wraith Engine in Dark Host they get to entirely engage on their own terms.
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Post by mrmayhem on Aug 1, 2017 19:55:19 GMT
I disagree with the assessment about Grim2 into Dark Host. As far as I can tell without consulting War Room, you have exactly 1 magical gun. If they're playing double Wraith Engine in Dark Host they get to entirely engage on their own terms. There's always the time-honored incorp removal of Spirit Chaser. That was most of what we had in the bad old days of Cryx match ups. |
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Aug 1, 2017 20:45:09 GMT
Fair enough, I guess Dark Host tends to have very little reach beyond 13". I guess I'm just used to playing them SUPER far back to avoid arced nukes and stuff against Cryx.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Aug 1, 2017 23:20:46 GMT
FWIW Arcaux your Gunny list could translate into the Northkin theme pretty well. Here's a draft. Note also that Valka has Take Down for a little more RFP and Magic Weapon on his two axes at MAT 8. I also like Dozer's animus on the Hooch Hauler, as low RAT is its main weakness. conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0G020res0jjqfFj20k0mezezj5j3Trollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Storm of the North (CID) !!! Your army contains CID entries. !!! You are using a pre-release theme. (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dozer & Smigg [18] - Troll Bouncer [9] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Swamp Gobber Chef [1] Valka Curseborn, Chieftain of the North [0(6)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [3] Northkin Fire Eaters [7] Northkin Fire Eaters [7] Northkin Raiders (max) [15] Hearthgut Hooch Hauler [18] |
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Aug 1, 2017 23:34:14 GMT
In the meantime, do you think something like this is any good? Just try for more pressure? And huge bases can't hide Gunny from ghost shots but from Scourge maybe? conflictchamber.com/#c7201b_-0D020resjq0k0mezez6t7rhUhUTrollbloods Army - 75 / 75 points [Theme] Kriel Company !!! Your army contains a CID entry. (Gunnbjorn 1) Captain Gunnbjorn [+28] - Dire Troll Bomber [19] - Dozer & Smigg [18] - Trollkin Runebearer [0(5)] Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes (min) [6] - Stone Scribe Elder [0(3)] Northkin Fire Eaters [7] Northkin Fire Eaters [7] Scattergunners (max) [14] - Scattergunner Officer & Standard [0(4)] Trollkin War Wagon [16] Trollkin War Wagon [16] |
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Post by ninjastars on Aug 2, 2017 15:24:07 GMT
I'm sort of missing how this will work. The war wagon, mk and fire eaters are only good if they can charge, and both gaspy and the coven prevent that from happening. And with parasite and curse of shadows, those casters don't have a problem taking huge heavily armored bases off the board. I see how the abilities those models bring are good vs dark host, but how do you use them vs a cloud wall or the witch covens feat?
ive only just started thinking about this, but it seems like calandra or the new madrak1 might be a good option. Banes can crack armor like nobody's business, but they're pretty much stuck at mat 6-7. You throw a defense skew at them and you have a chance to attrition them down.
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Post by allinontrolls on Aug 2, 2017 16:58:26 GMT
How could calandra handle it?
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Post by ninjastars on Aug 2, 2017 19:46:19 GMT
i'm not sure if she could, I was just thinking champs under star crossed or solid ground are only getting hit about 30% of the time by banes, 20% if you kill tartarus. Its still probably a tough match, but it seems better than bringing stuff that needs to charge into lists that stop charges.
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Post by grabsnikk on Aug 3, 2017 4:47:56 GMT
i really like your article. I am testing a post CID grim1 Version. I really think he is able to deal with cryx. Grim1 with a Hooch Hauler in SotN is quite scary for Cryx to deal with. |
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