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Post by redbaron89 on Jul 25, 2017 19:51:42 GMT
Going to test out this build tonight.
Oracles theme:
Carniveanx3
Seraph 14
Thronex2 38
Sorceress+hellionx2
forsakenx2
Gotta figure out which caster works best. Going to try thags 1 but there are plenty of others that look promising. High armor, 13-14 sprays, decent threat. Thoughts on build? Anyone else tried this? Which caster works best?
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Post by chillychinaman on Jul 25, 2017 19:57:47 GMT
I think Vayl2 would work best. Her balanced spell list let's her help out with basically everything in the list. The only problem I see is how she's going to deliver everything in one piece. I don't think 3 beasts+2 battle engines is enough threat saturation to win attrition.
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Post by unded on Jul 25, 2017 20:00:40 GMT
I'd look at Saeryn for a significant armour skew.
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Post by Cheesebeard on Jul 25, 2017 21:54:38 GMT
Thagrosh1 vs melee/bricks, Saeryn1 vs shooting/infantry (although, losing characters is rough)
This just makes me think that the Throne should really be able to be affected by Slipstream given that it can be TK'd...
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Post by rhonlore on Jul 25, 2017 22:26:59 GMT
Thagrosh1 vs melee/bricks, Saeryn1 vs shooting/infantry (although, losing characters is rough) This just makes me think that the Throne should really be able to be affected by Slipstream given that it can be TK'd... Gotta keep TK the best spell in the game somehow man.  I like this idea a lot, thags1 or saeryn1 or vayl2 could be quite spicy. |
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Post by mallios on Jul 25, 2017 22:31:28 GMT
Assassination with Lylyth.
Between Slipstream, Flare, Ice Cage, Parasite, and her feat, you can get several attempts in. Not counting Pursuit and Slipstream, a Carni's spray attack range is no joke. Three of them fully boosted under feat, Flare, and Parasite would each be Rat 6 with four dice, effective Pow 17 with three dice from a non-linear 18" away.
Lylyth's feat makes the Thrones' Mat and Magic 7 attacks no joke, and I imagine that the two Thrones would distract your opponent enough for a turn or two to set up the rest of your forces.
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Post by redbaron89 on Jul 25, 2017 22:42:21 GMT
Synergies:
Thags 1 benifits:
Draconic blessing= +2 strength/cycling
Death shroud=-2 strength to enemies within 10 inches.
Fog of war=concealment
8 inch thags spray
Obliteration
Thags is a boss in melee/athanc/free upkeep/free animi
Vayl 2:
Boundless charge=threat extender/free charges
Icy grip-infantry def debuff
Oraculus-arc node spellslinging
Lylyth 1: (probably wants succubus/boltthrower instead of seraph)
Parasyte- -3 arm debuff
Feat- additional attack die
Pursuit-beast threat extender
Lots of assasination threat between:lylyth herself/feat/flare/bolthrower/ice cage/carni assault sprays
Vayl 1:
Incite-hit/damage fixer
Oraculus- see above
Feat-does it affect BE???
Dark setinal
Saeryn: (might want zuriel+martyr)
Feat=+3 arm+beasts hit back
Blightbringer- interesting!!!
Breathstealer-speed/def debuff
Banishing ward-spell immune
Respawn-bring a beast back
Kryssa:
Feat=armywide+3 strength
Repo 3 upkeep
10 inch continuous fire spray
Might have missed a few.
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Post by thelat on Jul 26, 2017 0:05:03 GMT
I say Thagrosh1, because 5 of the models in the army are the tankiest things in the faction. Might as well roll with that.
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Post by Swampmist on Jul 26, 2017 1:25:40 GMT
If you go thags1, it might not be a bad idea to swap a carni for Typhon
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Post by redbaron89 on Jul 26, 2017 4:48:40 GMT
I ended up trying lylyth against my friends rahn list. I unfortunately did not get to test it much as i was assasinated before our lines crossed. Turn 2 i killed hemera by parasiting her, rolled 1 shot with seraph, cranked damage, flare, two carniveans sprayed it to death. My opponents next turn Phoenix tked my screening battle engine over and forward two inches facing its ass to his approaching army, force bolted my carnivean in front of lylyth knocking both down and lylyth out of succubus cloud, feated mittens pulled lylyth forward and spelled her to death.
Takeaways:
Dont screen lylyth with beasts directly in front.
Force bolt is nasty.
Tk works on battle engines. Knew that but forgot.
Bolt thrower might be better to take than seraph in regards to lylyth 1.
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Post by snotling on Jul 26, 2017 6:49:58 GMT
The succubus cloud is centered on the model it is cast on. So if it was in lylyth, it shozld have moved with her.
Also i like lylyth1 better wirh double throne, double ravagore, seraph, bolt thrower, naga. XD
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Post by streetpizza on Jul 26, 2017 18:34:17 GMT
Thagrosh1 vs melee/bricks, Saeryn1 vs shooting/infantry (although, losing characters is rough) This just makes me think that the Throne should really be able to be affected by Slipstream given that it can be TK'd... Gotta keep TK the best spell in the game somehow man. I like this idea a lot, thags1 or saeryn1 or vayl2 could be quite spicy. Don't make me bust out the Kreuger or Haley 2 tech this week! |
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Post by Falcen on Jul 27, 2017 1:38:42 GMT
Bolt thrower might be better to take than seraph in regards to lylyth 1. 4" > 2", pretty obvious, although I guess being able to back away is valuable in its on right. Imho Lylyth1 wants both - maximising your assassination threat is key for many Legion warcasters an Lylyth is one of them. |
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