New minions player Rask list questions.

The 3 max Posse, Shamblers build leads to a lot of points spent for support, which I don't really like. In addition, just one wrastler doesn't seem to be enough to threaten high ARM lists.

These are the reason why I actually run
2 Wrastlers
2 max Posse
2 min Posse
min Ambushers

Max Posse => more models benefit from Fury
Miin Posse x2 => one more Posse, more board control, less support bloat
Ambushers => I like ambushing

I used this the other day and it was certainly interesting - gonna try it again.

Rask (Blindwater theme)
- 2 Wrastler
- 1 Bullsnapper (free)
3 max units of posse
1 unit of bog trog shamblers
3 groups of River raiders (one group for free)
Totem hunter (free)

To be honest only used this list once (and thus River Raiders once) but my opponent did find them most infuriating. Basic ideas for their use in no particular order:

1- Jam opponents units/block charge lanes making it even harder for opponents to get the drop on the posse and greater chance of a charge.
2 - use their poisoned blades to knock the DEF down on living enemy models (warbeasts in particular) making them easier for the MAT6 posse to hit or more importantly for wrastlers so I don't have to boost to hit and can just concentrate on damage.
3 - Use their guns to get into the back arcs of models and then they either have to waste a turn killing them or suffer a free strike which could in turn poison them reducing their STR/DEF for a round.
4- go jump on flags cos you know 9 solos gives options, and no point using an expensive combat solo to babysit a flag where they have no use, also used to contest zones especially in cover where they get stealth.
5 - Desposable chaff that are fast enough to get where they need to be to contest enemy flags/zones for a turn before dying when you don't neccessarily want to overcommit just yet.
6- create corpses for the bog trog shambler Bokur

With that in mind, after one game 6/9 died they should have tied up a unit of ferox for a turn (my opponent jumped out of combat which we found out later was wrong as you cannot jump if you cannot charge.) put the -2def/str buff onto the skorne battle engine (making it DEF8) same on Tiberon, got a cheeky freestrike on a solo and did 4 damage to him half killing it, killed various paingivers and contested some zones for a while whilst scoring my own flag.

So happy to give them another go, they are more utility than killy but by no means would I swear by them yet as still exploring the options within blindwater. Possibly want to try 2 bog trog trawlers with a mist speaker.

The second is the Rask list I prefer, just with Mist Speaker instead of Bull Snapper.

Just take Calaban for Ghost Fleet.

Thanks everyone! I am planning to try Gastons version and the min version to see which I prefer. (3 max will be first since that's what I own). I will be using caliban for my second list eventually so I am not focusing on ghost fleet tech with Rask. I like to play the primary warlock as much as possible so Rask will get run through the gauntlet for a while and then I will figured caliban out.

I do need some pig stuff though so if I could do a quick side venture that would be good. I've seen Gaston's caliban brigand list and I've seen one with brigands and nyss. How does the 3 ranged units list work out if you pair caliban with Rask it intrigued me. (Guessing 2 units of brigands and vault is better but I am curious)

Actually your alright their as the shambler will not get to make a tough roll if it is sac pawned as it skips that phase of the process and goes straight to destroyed. 

If you're talking about the x2 Brigands and Nyss list I think you are, then that one is a great list, but from a pre-Ghost Fleet meta. I certainly wouldn't discourage you from it, but I personally would prefer the Vault. From my dusty memory, I believe that started as a Maelok WTC 2016 list, but Calaban is basically better Maelok.

I am toying with swapping the Brigands with Calaban to be Croaks. That would make the list in theme, nets me 5 points (post CID), then another couple of freebies. I'm not sure that it actually is better, because Brigands have a lot of natural benefits over Croaks, but it is something I want to get to whenever real life allows me.