coming back to MK3

Thanks for the look - I went off and did a little updating to see what the lists would look like at the new 75pt mark in MK3 with the new Blindwater Pact. (Though now need to find a use for the two little swamps I made...mmm.)

Barnabas
Wrastler
Spitter
Spitter
Bull Snapper (free)
Croak raiders (max)
Croak raiders (max)
Sacral Vault
Witch doc croc
Thrullg (free)
Feralgeist


Really not sure going to need that bull snapper anymore with the changes to FURY, and the spitters getting a decent animus but not sure what Free solo to get (perhaps the trollkin mechanic to fix the sacral vault?) Also loosing the +3 DEF spell does make the croak raiders a bit more frail. Thrullg was a bit of a dead duck in the last edition this still the case? I mean he is free and that is good but should he be something else? I do like that the spitters can still unjam croak raiders by shooting into combat, I like that the list gets a feralgeist so he can jump in the middle of infantry be shot at and make a more accurate way of getting corrosion on models - especially those with steath. I like how the Sacral vault got a whole bunch more wounds, and Reload 2 though soul heavy does mean if you have max souls you can RELIABLY count on it to churn out 3 boosted damage shots on Barnabas feat turn rather then the usual 1 it always seemed to have. Wrastler also seems to be much more insane this edition though tempted to perhaps keep the snapper and drop the wrastler for wrong eye and snapjaw? might keep the croaks alive a little longer and won't need swamp pit support.



Rask
Wrastler
Bull Snapper (free)
Blind Walker

Posse (max)
Posse (max)
Posse (max)
Shamblers
Shamblers
Gobber Chef
Totem Hunter (Free)
Witch doc (Free)

yeah trying to trim the points off the Rask list was harder, I really wanted a unit of croaks and triple posse but just couldn't get it in - though I remember double shamblers was fun (And heck I painted them all!) can you still sac shamblers from another friendy unit? A Free totem hunter is nothing to sniff at. The blindwalker is just their to use up WB points though he does have two open hands and is on a large base so good for surprise power attacks, also shieldwall could help one of the two bokors stay alive. Had 1pt left over so Gobber chef it is you never know he might get a backstrike.

Witch Doc is kind of a stinker with Rask. He doesn't do anything for the Posses and tough Shamblers is more cute than exciting. Especially if they can just take shots against your other Shambler unit instead. I like a Mist Speaker with Rask, if he all he does is make Rask slightly more accurate, he was worth the slot imo. Rask's RAT 7 is right in that danger zone where it feels accurate but because his gun has cool effects, landing the shot can be high stakes.

cheers for the response guys.  - might well keep the bull snapper as a reserve FURY battery, but definetly think I need to loose 1 warbeast as can't control all that so could drop the wrastler for Wrong eye and Snapjaw so can spread out a bit. Then won't be tempted to Rage Barnabas and chuck him straight in. Thrullg is an interesting piece - usually either gets shot to ribbons or slaps a warjack distrupts it then gets squashed even without focus. The only real use I have found for one is so corner case as to only think of including him when he is free is on assassination runs - doubly so on Pop n Drop. Knock everyone down, use frogs to clear a path - charge their caster slap him a couple of times and strip all the focus off them (as done on hit's not damage) and then proceed to shoot their caster up some more as whilst on the floor they don't count as engaged and don't get the +4 defence.  oh and killing pistol wraiths/feralgeist that the vault has left alone for some reason. 


"Witch Doc is kind of a stinker with Rask. He doesn't do anything for the Posses and tough Shamblers is more cute than exciting. Especially if they can just take shots against your other Shambler unit instead. I like a Mist Speaker with Rask, if he all he does is make Rask slightly more accurate, he was worth the slot imo. Rask's RAT 7 is right in that danger zone where it feels accurate but because his gun has cool effects, landing the shot can be high stakes." 

yeah totally see the point here regarding the witch doc croc - might well have to try out a mist speaker. I usually boosted Rasks shot IF it was a key shot anyway and I assume the aiming bonus of +2 is still around.  But yeah tough is slightly less useful then it previously was with the once knocked down they loose it approach and the 2nd unit would prob be shot at (assuming was in range.)