mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jul 10, 2017 18:37:14 GMT
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skurkious
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Post by skurkious on Jul 10, 2017 20:23:02 GMT
Interesting. Seems like a lot of points for a solo that doesn't really help any other models. Have to get her/him on a table to see how survivable they are.
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Post by grimgor on Jul 10, 2017 22:11:57 GMT
I dont understand why 6 points, maximus is 4 points and looks very similar design...
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Jul 10, 2017 22:32:23 GMT
I dont understand why 6 points, maximus is 4 points and looks very similar design... I'd argue that Valka offers a different niche. His focus is punishing your opponents approaching and hurting you, and raw survivability (feign death, rise and unyielding) means he's a pretty tough cookie. Whether or not he is worth a full 6 is unclear but he'll be quite the freebie in Northkin theme. |
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Post by Sarcastastic on Jul 11, 2017 4:50:12 GMT
He's definitely a boatload better than I was first expecting. I was assuming he'd be another weapon master missile solo, which we really don't need. However between Vengeance, Counter Charge, Rise, and Feign Death, he's surprisingly survivable to shooting and will bounce around once he gets in there.
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joedj
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Post by joedj on Jul 11, 2017 6:08:12 GMT
Yes! A MAT 8 Counter Charger. Having seen the deterrent power of MAT 8 Counter Charging Khadorian Great Bears/Markov/Kovniks, I can attest to their effectiveness. Northkin Elder provides the +2 STR Aura to make that Countercharge worthy.
So many rules...trying. Free solo in SotN? Ok then!
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Post by macdaddy on Jul 11, 2017 7:56:41 GMT
Yes! A MAT 8 Counter Charger. Having seen the deterrent power of MAT 8 Counter Charging Khadorian Great Bears/Markov/Kovniks, I can attest to their effectiveness. Northkin Elder provides the +2 STR Aura to make that Countercharge worthy. So many rules...trying. Free solo in SotN? Ok then! He is Mat 9 with the hauler at Pow 14 WM with the stone  That a lot of damage from one troll |
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Post by grimgor on Jul 11, 2017 9:06:37 GMT
I dont understand why 6 points, maximus is 4 points and looks very similar design... I'd argue that Valka offers a different niche. His focus is punishing your opponents approaching and hurting you, and raw survivability (feign death, rise and unyielding) means he's a pretty tough cookie. Whether or not he is worth a full 6 is unclear but he'll be quite the freebie in Northkin theme. Yes i'm ok with this, but sometimes using countercharge could be a trap, it's not an ability which is easy to use. But if You can counter charge, use righteous vengeance with his good attacks, that could be interessant for his threat range and his potential of destruction, but i'm not sure a good player will let doing that, it should come from a missplay often. That's a guy who want to use madrak 2 's feat |
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Robbe
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Post by Robbe on Jul 11, 2017 9:14:37 GMT
still only range 1  |
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 11, 2017 9:45:53 GMT
I mean have you guys looked at the available free solos for the theme?
Skaldi
Northkin Shaman
Northkin Elder
Valka
That's it. Valka will almost always get taken as a free solo and a free hard hitting combat solo seems great.
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Post by Big Fat Troll on Jul 14, 2017 22:39:25 GMT
I mean have you guys looked at the available free solos for the theme? Skaldi Northkin Shaman Northkin Elder Valka That's it. Valka will almost always get taken as a free solo and a free hard hitting combat solo seems great. I'm pretty sure they have said that Fell Caller and Runebearer will be added to that list. |
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 14, 2017 23:26:06 GMT
I mean have you guys looked at the available free solos for the theme? Skaldi Northkin Shaman Northkin Elder Valka That's it. Valka will almost always get taken as a free solo and a free hard hitting combat solo seems great. I'm pretty sure they have said that Fell Caller and Runebearer will be added to that list. Yes, but my post was made 4 days ago, before they had said anything |
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That a lot of damage from one troll 
