mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jul 10, 2017 18:34:35 GMT
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cuberic
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Post by cuberic on Jul 10, 2017 19:28:03 GMT
That feat
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skurkious
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Post by skurkious on Jul 10, 2017 19:42:20 GMT
Although frost hammer with dark power seems pretty good, her spell list doesn't WOW me. Maybe a cloud wall with Shamans? Pretty good feat although I'm not a huge fan of the "ending their activations" part. Can't wait to have a cavalry unit attack something and then reposition outside her feat lol.
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Post by chillychinaman on Jul 10, 2017 19:46:47 GMT
Now, I don't play trolls, but having read her rules, I'm getting the same vibe as the tier2 battlebox casters. Her kit isn't bad, but it's kinda unfocused. Nothing really jumps out to me besides maybe a cloud wall or Curse+Highwayman similar to Tanith's Affliction+Reeves.
P.S. Don't most FUR7(FOC I'm gonna assume is a typo) have 5 spells?
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 10, 2017 20:37:20 GMT
I genuinely can't believe how good she is. She's perfect!
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cuberic
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Post by cuberic on Jul 10, 2017 20:55:09 GMT
I think of her as grim1 but with more defensive tech.
Her current iteration may almost be too good.
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Post by robbleyourworld on Jul 10, 2017 21:01:29 GMT
I'll have to put her on the table. I'm a little uncertain as to what I'd want to build around her but I'm glad she brings something seemingly unique for trolls. Very into cursed fate + highwaymen, more clouds are always nice, Frosthammer on a Fury 7 caster with her feat and the new stone CA will hit regularly and like a truck, and hunter's mark is always nice. All the spells except the cloud can be spell slaved which is always nice. Her feat seems weird but it still seems like it has potential to be pretty good.
Also arcane vortex...
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jul 10, 2017 21:04:54 GMT
Arcane Vortex!
Feat!
Hunter's Mark from a Runebearer! Ahhhh!
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Jul 10, 2017 22:47:08 GMT
Her synergies with Runebearer are great as none of her spells are upkeeps. I kinda wish she had Telgesh Mark / some way to channeler as that's a signature spellcasting ability that isn't available to trolls and would help her stand out as a witchy character.
The feat is... interesting but I am unsure of whether it's good. When people read Blind they think ball busting effect, but in reality it might as well read as "-4 def". Regardless I eagerly await to hear what comes out of testing with her as I REALLY want to play a scenario lockout control Warlock in trollbloods. There might be something with feat plus bulldozing beasts to get some silly stuff.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jul 11, 2017 0:18:44 GMT
I'm not a Troll player but good gravy this lady looks amazing. What screams at me in the face about this is wrongeye/snapjaw + your enemies being blind. plus you could feat, cursed fate someone then run one of the new northkin ( the one with cloud and chiller ) to extend your cloud wall/-2 def on a stick. You can effectively -8 def any non cold immune enemies and then they're -4 MAT, Can't shoot and under star crossed... Seems good.
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Post by robbleyourworld on Jul 11, 2017 0:38:21 GMT
I'm not a Troll player but good gravy this lady looks amazing. What screams at me in the face about this is wrongeye/snapjaw + your enemies being blind. plus you could feat, cursed fate someone then run one of the new northkin ( the one with cloud and chiller ) to extend your cloud wall/-2 def on a stick. You can effectively -8 def any non cold immune enemies and then they're -4 MAT, Can't shoot and under star crossed... Seems good. I'm not sure what WE&SJ bring to her other than being good in their own right. Her feat requires models to END their activation in her control range meaning they're not blinded until after they've gone. On your following turn with the cloud you can have free strikes be -4 to hit and with Star crossed it would make them pretty ignorable.
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mattmcd
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Post by mattmcd on Jul 11, 2017 0:54:01 GMT
Ohhhhh now I understand. The feat is not as good as I was initially reading. It's basically a time lock feat that only lowers defense by 4?
I wonder if they would be open to changing the wording to "an enemy model that ends its movement or stands still within the spellcaster's control immediately suffers blind."
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gdnerd
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Post by gdnerd on Jul 11, 2017 0:56:45 GMT
Ohhhhh now I understand. The feat is not as good as I was initially reading. It's basically a time lock feat that only lowers defense by 4? I wonder if they would be open to changing the wording to "an enemy model that ends its movement or stands still within the spellcaster's control immediately suffers blind." Or starts its activation within. Though that might be too good as an unshakeable blind.
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Post by robbleyourworld on Jul 11, 2017 1:06:27 GMT
Ohhhhh now I understand. The feat is not as good as I was initially reading. It's basically a time lock feat that only lowers defense by 4? I wonder if they would be open to changing the wording to "an enemy model that ends its movement or stands still within the spellcaster's control immediately suffers blind." Or starts its activation within. Though that might be too good as an unshakeable blind. nah feats like that are reserved for the likes of denny and haley not us lowly trolls (also that would be ridiculously good) Also it does stop things like counter charge/slam which I'm sure I'll be thankful of at some point.
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isotope
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Post by isotope on Jul 11, 2017 1:44:43 GMT
I'm not a Troll player but good gravy this lady looks amazing. What screams at me in the face about this is wrongeye/snapjaw + your enemies being blind. plus you could feat, cursed fate someone then run one of the new northkin ( the one with cloud and chiller ) to extend your cloud wall/-2 def on a stick. You can effectively -8 def any non cold immune enemies and then they're -4 MAT, Can't shoot and under star crossed... Seems good. I'm not sure what WE&SJ bring to her other than being good in their own right. Her feat requires models to END their activation in her control range meaning they're not blinded until after they've gone. On your following turn with the cloud you can have free strikes be -4 to hit and with Star crossed it would make them pretty ignorable. Well sure but with a cloud wall you can play her pretty far forward to catch a lot in the feat. WE+SJ also work well because of hunters mark works for friendly models. They dont need to be behind the cloud wall as much as other models, can be played on a flank to contest then come in 13" on a charge the turn you commit them.
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