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Post by Aegis on Jul 14, 2017 21:57:18 GMT
What's being played in your area? Is one or the other in short supply? If 1 person plays Cygnar, and 5 already play Retribution, taking Cyg would probably be more exciting in your area. Not that I actually expect Cygnar is less played than Ret... but you never know. I personally like taking an army that isn't being played in my area. Opponents tend to find that more exciting, and gaming is a shared experience. Actually, Cygnar is one of the less played factions in my area... On of my local gaming clubs have 4 Khador players, 2 Rets, 1 Cryx, 1 Legion, 1 Menoth, and only me as Cygnar, so it can happen.
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Post by Charistoph on Jul 15, 2017 2:05:32 GMT
What's being played in your area? Is one or the other in short supply? If 1 person plays Cygnar, and 5 already play Retribution, taking Cyg would probably be more exciting in your area. Not that I actually expect Cygnar is less played than Ret... but you never know. I personally like taking an army that isn't being played in my area. Opponents tend to find that more exciting, and gaming is a shared experience. Hard to say, my LGS time is limited. There were 3 Ret players at the last tournament as I came by, and I think there was 1 Cygnar. However, I'll be moving to the other side of town to a different LGS, so I don't know what the locals will be bringing (and most of the tournament players tend to go to both LGS). I do like to go with a lesser represented Faction, but if that was my only concern, I'd stick with my Human Mercs. If I see any Mercs at all, lately, they have been Cephalyx or Rhulic. Skorne has been moderately represented, though. I'm past the point of caring about that, though. I'm going to be heading to sell most of my models at local game store market tomorrow, so we'll see what's left, and I can get a better feel of what's around.
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Post by GreatBigTree on Jul 15, 2017 3:51:16 GMT
Unless selling the models is specifically to fund the new purchases... don't sell them. You'll come back to them, eventually. After playing your new army for a while, you might rekindle the love of something older. Or new rules may make your old army fun again.
The best part of wargaming is that your models never lose value. Some of my 40k stuff is over 15 years old, and a dude with a lasgun is still a dude with a lasgun. The rules change, but the models are still playable. I have jars of paint more than 20 years old, that still work. Point I'm trying to make is that you never know what the future holds, and I know I would have regretted selling my models in the times I thought it would be a good idea.
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dagowit
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Post by dagowit on Jul 15, 2017 6:05:01 GMT
Mercenaries are too internally divided to make for a good collection. I run the humans and have no interest in getting Cephalyx or Rhulic 'casters. That's fair. Just be aware that the Retribution is also pretty divided looks-wise. The Dawnguard and Houseguard look very different from Mage Hunters - and House Shyeel, Ellowuyr, and Vyre all have their distinct little pieces of decoration. Of course, you could easily say that Cygnar looks pretty diverse as well. Stormblades are not like Rangers etc. but overall I think the look of Cygnar models is slightly more uniform (excluding the myriad Mercs that work for them). That said, all Retribution models are elves and Cygnar models are human (again, barring Mercs) so if that racial unity is enough for you, both factions would be fine. As for getting your interest in building a collection back, I suggest asking your local Cygnar and Retribution players (provided you have both) to lend you an army for a test game or two. If someone asked me to bring, say, a shooty Ossyan Mage Hunters list and a Vyros2 list with all the 'jacks, I'd be happy to lend them some models while we play a test game or two. Edit: ...and I'd second what greatbigtree said about hanging on to your models. I originally switched from Circle to Retribution and although I really like the murderous elves, switching factions helps me appreciate each faction more (as its strengths and weaknesses really come out). Oh, and I'm surprised you don't see Damiano Kingmaker's Army. It is popular around here and can certainly be competitive.
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Post by Charistoph on Jul 15, 2017 23:19:12 GMT
Unless selling the models is specifically to fund the new purchases... don't sell them. You'll come back to them, eventually. After playing your new army for a while, you might rekindle the love of something older. Or new rules may make your old army fun again. Yeah, it is to fund the new army. Funds and child-safe space are quite limited, so any sales would the only way I can justify purchasing anything new. Sadly, I only sold off my remaining 40K stuff, a Razorworm, and a Master Tormenter. Not enough to start much of anything, except maybe a Battlebox. Mercenaries are too internally divided to make for a good collection. I run the humans and have no interest in getting Cephalyx or Rhulic 'casters. That's fair. Just be aware that the Retribution is also pretty divided looks-wise. The Dawnguard and Houseguard look very different from Mage Hunters - and House Shyeel, Ellowuyr, and Vyre all have their distinct little pieces of decoration. Of course, you could easily say that Cygnar looks pretty diverse as well. Stormblades are not like Rangers etc. but overall I think the look of Cygnar models is slightly more uniform (excluding the myriad Mercs that work for them). That said, all Retribution models are elves and Cygnar models are human (again, barring Mercs) so if that racial unity is enough for you, both factions would be fine. You don't seem to understand what I mean by divided. There are three types of Warjacks in Mercenaries, and they can only be controlled by the same type of Warcaster or Jack Marshall. In order to run a Mangler on the table, I need a human 'Caster or Marshall, Rhulic 'Jacks need Dwarfs, and Monstrosities need Cephalyx. I cannot run a Wrecker in Magnus' Battlegroup any more than I can with Ole Rowdy or Beast 09. If I want to run a Dwarf or Cephalyx Warcaster right now, I'd have to by a whole new Warjack stable for them. That is quite a different scenario to a Warcaster not being good with a 'Jack or just looking different from the rest of the group.
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Post by W0lfBane on Jul 16, 2017 0:15:20 GMT
You seem to be selling your skorne rather than your mercs. If you're keeping your mercs and interested in Llaelese theme force you might want to go cygnar cause cygnar is almost guaranteed to have list building interactions with Llael
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dagowit
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Post by dagowit on Jul 17, 2017 7:53:43 GMT
Ah, I did misunderstand - because of an earlier comment about the looks and aesthetics of models/factions. I know this problem well from Minions, so I probably should have understood. Sorry. No, Retribution has no such restrictions. Apart from the fact that Vyre 'casters (Ossyan and Ghyrrshyld) cannot be taken in the Forges of War Theme, anything goes. I agree with W0lfBane that there will be more overlapping Theme Forces between Mercs and Cygnar than Mercs and Retribution. On the other hand, there are fewer models in Retribution so it might be cheaper to collect. Perhaps look for a good second-hand deal and see what you can get? That is how I started my Retribution (although I ended up buying a ton of things myself as I discovered how much I enjoyed the faction).
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