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Post by zwergenkrieger on Jul 3, 2017 17:52:02 GMT
Hi, as you can see here: www.tiebreak.co.uk/european-team-championship-2017/playerstandingsthere were 3 undefeated Trollbloods players at the ETC. I like to see some lists or insights in their games / tactics / whatsoever jst to get some inspiration for my upcoming Trollbloods collection. I already have some ideas in mind but I always like to see other people opinions to widen my horizon. Thanks in advance.
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Arcaux
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 3, 2017 22:34:00 GMT
I've messaged Jace and Toby.
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Post by mattmcd on Jul 3, 2017 23:05:04 GMT
I'm curious what lists they ran as well if you can share what ya find out. :-)
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 3, 2017 23:39:33 GMT
I'm curious what lists they ran as well if you can share what ya find out. :-) Well hopefully they will respond, but off the top of my head: Toby was running: Doomy3 with MK and a Version of EE with slags and Storm Trolls Jace was running: Doomy2 5 heavies, bomber variant and A Jarl list which i think was BoH Fraizer was running: Doomy 3 with Mk and a Gunnbjorn list.
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Post by gdnerd on Jul 4, 2017 0:29:29 GMT
I'm curious what lists they ran as well if you can share what ya find out. :-) Well hopefully they will respond, but off the top of my head: Toby was running: Doomy3 with MK and a Version of EE with slags and Storm Trolls Jace was running: Doomy2 5 heavies, bomber variant and A Jarl list which i think was BoH Fraizer was running: Doomy 3 with Mk and a Gunnbjorn list. Doom2 5 heavies with a bomber? Did he drop Mulg for a single bomber or the axer to squeeze in 2? Edit: Or alternatively min stone to upgrade a single non-mulg heavy for a bomber, then optionally swap mulg for the second. Either way I disapprove.
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 4, 2017 0:45:43 GMT
Well hopefully they will respond, but off the top of my head: Toby was running: Doomy3 with MK and a Version of EE with slags and Storm Trolls Jace was running: Doomy2 5 heavies, bomber variant and A Jarl list which i think was BoH Fraizer was running: Doomy 3 with Mk and a Gunnbjorn list. Doom2 5 heavies with a bomber? Did he drop Mulg for a single bomber or the axer to squeeze in 2? Edit: Or alternatively min stone to upgrade a single non-mulg heavy for a bomber, then optionally swap mulg for the second. Either way I disapprove. Lol I think it's Doomy2 - Mulg - Bomber - Mauler - Mauler - Earthborn - Axer Min Stone + UA Whelps Whichever 2 other solos he chose. To be fair you literally can't play the double mauler, double Earthborn version in Europe. Too many troops. I disapprove of Doomy2 in general, but if you must you need that bomber.
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Post by gdnerd on Jul 4, 2017 0:53:49 GMT
Doom2 5 heavies with a bomber? Did he drop Mulg for a single bomber or the axer to squeeze in 2? Edit: Or alternatively min stone to upgrade a single non-mulg heavy for a bomber, then optionally swap mulg for the second. Either way I disapprove. Lol I think it's Doomy2 - Mulg - Bomber - Mauler - Mauler - Earthborn - Axer Min Stone + UA Whelps Whichever 2 other solos he chose. To be fair you literally can't play the double mauler, double Earthborn version in Europe. Too many troops. I disapprove of Doomy2 in general, but if you must you need that bomber. I mean, depending on the troops you can try overtake surfing after a nice long 13" trample.
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 4, 2017 1:12:08 GMT
Sure, it's an option, but it only gets you so far and you still have the problem of no long ranged solo removal and keeping certain casters honest without guns. I'd be interested to watch you play into something like Zaal1, Strakov2 or Issyria with double sentinels to see if I'm just doing it wrong.
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Post by gdnerd on Jul 4, 2017 1:25:52 GMT
Sure, it's an option, but it only gets you so far and you still have the problem of no long ranged solo removal and keeping certain casters honest without guns. I'd be interested to watch you play into something like Zaal1, Strakov2 or Issyria with double sentinels to see if I'm just doing it wrong. Funny thing, I've played into all of those but with Grim1. He's amazing at infantry killing and triage. I'm not saying Doom2 is some panacea that can get dropped into literally full 75 points of troops, but he has enough game into troops that he can run the gamut from dedicated heavy bricks to combined arms and free up space for a fully dedicated anti-infantry warlock setup. He's also obnoxious enough into stuff like High Reclaimer and other certain melee focused recursion strategies that you can preemptively force them into their other list (or they're in for a REALLY bad time). In general, if you hit first and hit hard enough (both are quite likely barring some super high defense) they're going to struggle to get you on the crack back and from there it just becomes an exercise in not getting Doomy killed. Maybe I'm just taking crazy pills, or maybe NorCal is just as bad as Chain Attack says I say it is.
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Post by Arcaux on Jul 4, 2017 1:41:33 GMT
I'm not saying Doom2 is some panacea that can get dropped into literally full 75 points of troops, but he has enough game into troops that he can run the gamut from dedicated heavy bricks to combined arms and free up space for a fully dedicated anti-infantry warlock setup. He's also obnoxious enough into stuff like High Reclaimer and other certain melee focused recursion strategies that you can preemptively force them into their other list (or they're in for a REALLY bad time). In general, if you hit first and hit hard enough (both are quite likely barring some super high defense) they're going to struggle to get you on the crack back and from there it just becomes an exercise in not getting Doomy killed. Maybe I'm just taking crazy pills, or maybe NorCal is just as bad as Chain Attack says I say it is. I think it's mostly that Metas are different around the world. I love chain attack and will support them as much as I can, but from my understanding Trev has had a lot of work recently and to some extent that shows. Lots of mistakes or strange statements. He called Trolls the 5th best faction in the game on the episode after the Skorne Errata. My main issue is when I see someone with troop spam and an Armor skew and suddenly it's list chicken and I don't really like list chicken. Especially when both my opponent's choices are good. We also have a local Strakov1 player and unfortunately that does out threat Doomy2 in some situations. An earthborn with all the buffs goes further but doesn't kill the Khador jack when he gets there due to lack of range. I suppose a lot of it boils down to playstyle though. I like control (conTroll) it's how I want to play the game. You want to alpha hard and play a different but definitely viable style. The game would be boring if we all played the same lists
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Post by gdnerd on Jul 4, 2017 1:52:37 GMT
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Post by That Jace Dude on Jul 4, 2017 6:58:17 GMT
War Room Army
Trollblood - Doomie 2 PoD
Theme: The Power of Dhunia 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Stockpile - Steamroller Objective
Hoarluk Doomshaper, Rage of Dhunia - WB: +27 - Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0 - Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19) - Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8) - Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 - Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 15 - Mulg the Ancient - PC: 19 - Troll Axer - PC: 10
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0 Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 0
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6 - Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
THEME: The Power of Dhunia ..... War Room Army
Trollblood - Jarl 1 BoH
Theme: Band of Heroes 2 / 2 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Effigy of Valor - Steamroller Objective
Jarl Skuld, Devil of the Thornwood - WB: +30 - Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 19) - Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 11)
Fell Caller Hero - PC: 0 Stone Scribe Chronicler - PC: 4
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6 Trollkin Long Riders - Leader & 4 Grunts: 20 Trollkin Fennblades - Leader & 9 Grunts: 15 - Trollkin Fennblade Officer & Drummer - Officer & Drummer: 0 Trollkin Champions - Leader & 4 Grunts: 17 - Skaldi Bonehammer - PC: 5
THEME: Band of Heroes ---
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Post by mrt on Jul 4, 2017 8:03:15 GMT
Hi all,
These were the lists i took
Trollblood - EE
Theme: The Power of Dhunia 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Calandra Truthsayer, Oracle of the Glimmerwood - WB: +27 - Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0 - Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15) - Slag Troll - PC: 10 (Battlegroup Points Used: 10) - Storm Troll - PC: 9 (Battlegroup Points Used: 2) - Storm Troll - PC: 9 - Storm Troll - PC: 9 - Storm Troll - PC: 9 - Slag Troll - PC: 10
Horgle Ironstrike - PC: 0 - Pyre Troll - PC: 9 - Slag Troll - PC: 10 Northkin Shaman - PC: 0
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9 - Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Trollblood - Ragnor
Theme: The Power of Dhunia 3 / 3 Free Cards 73 / 75 Army
Ragnor Skysplitter, the Runemaster - WB: +30 - Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 0 - Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 - Mountain King - PC: 36 (Battlegroup Points Used: 30) - Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 15 - Troll Axer - PC: 10
Janissa Stonetide - PC: 0 Northkin Shaman - PC: 0
Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6 - Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3 Trollkin Runeshapers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9 Trollkin Runeshapers - Leader & 2 Grunts: 9
I went 4 - 0 and a quick run down of the games ill do later as i'm at work.
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Post by mattmcd on Jul 4, 2017 11:02:34 GMT
Thank you both!
What an interesting Calandra list! Can't wait to hear about that!
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Post by ninjastars on Jul 4, 2017 15:32:43 GMT
Man I had no idea ee mk3 was viable. The prospect of dusting off all those old lights has got me excited. I wonder if it'd work with grim2...
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