Lanz
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Post by Lanz on Jul 11, 2017 0:51:28 GMT
Why do people want WE&SJ with the twins, again? I remember that was also a thing prior to theme lists as well. Defense 18 warlocks with protector that have riposte and can have dodge animus up makes it incredibly hard to hit them without a significant buff or knocking them down. Oh right, I keep forgetting Wrongeye got starcrossed.
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Lanz
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Post by Lanz on Jul 11, 2017 0:54:10 GMT
So, here's a thought... Oracles allows a free solo with no other restrictions, and now we can take merc solos. The Lesser warlocks count as solos. Does that mean WE&SJ is free in oracles?
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Post by chillychinaman on Jul 11, 2017 2:15:02 GMT
So, here's a thought... Oracles allows a free solo with no other restrictions, and now we can take merc solos. The Lesser warlocks count as solos. Does that mean WE&SJ is free in oracles? For now it'll work, but i'll almost definitely be amended.
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princeraven
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Post by princeraven on Jul 11, 2017 6:52:04 GMT
Almost? There's no way they're giving us a 17 point solo for free. That was clearly an oversight.
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Post by AtlasCrusader on Jul 12, 2017 13:55:29 GMT
Almost? There's no way they're giving us a 17 point solo for free. That was clearly an oversight. Agreed. that could be a total of 33 free points from WE&SJ, 2 Helions, and a forsaken. I love Legion, but that's definitely not intended.
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Whiskie
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Post by Whiskie on Jul 12, 2017 16:39:33 GMT
They already said it's not intended and will be fixed.
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unded
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Post by unded on Jul 13, 2017 8:49:38 GMT
So I tried out this last night (based on Neuty's list, tweaked slightly to my personal preferences):
pThaggy (CotD) Azrael Zuriel Typhon max raptors Max swordies + UA (free) Warlord (free) Warlord shepherd martyr
Played into high reclaimer. Won't give a full battle report, just some highlights:
- Fog of War really helps deliver swordsmen, and the fact that you don't need to hug terrain for concealment mitigates their lack of pathfinder a bit. - with easier positioning available on the swordies (see above), it's much easier to get work out of the champion's countercharge and defensive strike abilities. - Azrael tossing POW 19 spears is disgusting. One round of thrown spears removed a reckoner's cortex and 2/3 of his boxes. - The tank is pretty legit. Still can't soak up charging Menoth weaponmasters, but by jamming a bit I was able to deny charge bonuses to his knights exemplar, and both zuriel and azrael soaked a double-S&P round from them without dying - Warlords are seriously great with Fog of war. Def 18 vs shooting is very hard to deal with (20 if you can find a hill / trench) and their utility vs both heavies and lights is actually substantial. Granted this is much easier to stomach when one of them is free.
Overall, I really liked it. Don't think it's a replacement for Fyanna in big events, but you could happily pair it with her.
-und_ed
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whydak
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Post by whydak on Jul 13, 2017 9:48:53 GMT
I'm also after first tests and I really this list:
[Theme] Children of the Dragon (Thagrosh 1) Thagrosh, Prophet of Everblight [+28] - Azrael [21] - Typhon [24] - Zuriel [18] Beast Mistress [0(4)] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] - Shredder [4] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Blighted Nyss Shepherd [1] Spell Martyr [1] Blighted Nyss Hex Hunters (min) [9] - Bayal, Hound of Everblight [0(6)] Blighted Nyss Swordsmen (min) [9] - Blighted Nyss Swordsman Abbot & Champion [0(6)] Spawning Vessel (max) [7]
Hex hunters could be easily replaced with second swordsmen but I like them, without Raptors its important to have something more mobile but they treat is still low. One more game today and I need to check Raptors version too, seems fun at least.
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