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Jun 16, 2017 6:10:15 GMT
Post by scorp on Jun 16, 2017 6:10:15 GMT
Hey all,
Are there any particular theme yall would like to see.
If so what are they?
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zich
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Jun 16, 2017 6:33:17 GMT
Post by zich on Jun 16, 2017 6:33:17 GMT
The Skorne Empire: - Can include Skorne models and Mercenaries/Minions who will work for Skorne. - For every 25p of Skorne models, add one Skorne solo or CA with a PC of 5 or less to the army for free.
Wishful thinking? Hell yes.
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Jun 16, 2017 6:50:46 GMT
Post by scorp on Jun 16, 2017 6:50:46 GMT
Yo...
That would be nasty AF!!!
The flexibility and options. Way too good for Skorne though.
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regleant
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Jun 16, 2017 7:04:39 GMT
Post by regleant on Jun 16, 2017 7:04:39 GMT
Service with a Smile - Can include ALL Minions - Can include Praetorian and Paingiver units / Models, TyComm, Extoller, Willbreaker - Can include non-Character warbeasts
GAINS: - All Minions count as Friendly Faction - All solos gain "No Sleeping on the Job" (Friendly Faction) - For every 15-20 points of Minions, add 1 Solo for free
I'd run that. I'd finally buy the undead Gator unit. Really, I just want to see the "Slavery" theme upped in importance within the faction. It was prominent in MK2, but now just kinda.., meh.
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Jun 16, 2017 8:08:08 GMT
Post by scorp on Jun 16, 2017 8:08:08 GMT
I love the slavery/abusive play of Skorne.
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Jun 16, 2017 13:04:34 GMT
Post by bennep on Jun 16, 2017 13:04:34 GMT
Exhalted Legions!
Beast theme that gives some free support!
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Jun 16, 2017 17:00:21 GMT
Post by sardonicartery on Jun 16, 2017 17:00:21 GMT
Agreed that I want to see Skorne get a minions-friendly theme.
If Cygnar can get Mercs in their force, the slavery faction should get to drag outsiders into the fight with theme.
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Jun 16, 2017 17:03:20 GMT
Post by sardonicartery on Jun 16, 2017 17:03:20 GMT
Service with a Smile
- Can include ALL Minions - Can include Praetorian and Paingiver units / Models, TyComm, Extoller, Willbreaker - Can include non-Character warbeasts GAINS: - All Minions count as Friendly Faction - All solos gain "No Sleeping on the Job" (Friendly Faction) - For every 15-20 points of Minions, add 1 Solo for free I'd run that. I'd finally buy the undead Gator unit. Really, I just want to see the "Slavery" theme upped in importance within the faction. It was prominent in MK2, but now just kinda.., meh. Minions counting as faction will hit an OP issue for certain minion unit-caster combinations. However, I do like that in this build, you wouldn't just build Mak2 catz for free solos (as most praetorian themes could just skew that way).
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regleant
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Jun 17, 2017 0:51:32 GMT
Post by regleant on Jun 17, 2017 0:51:32 GMT
What? Brine benefiting as an in-faction Warbeast is perfectly fair and balanced. Rush, Enrage, Abuse, Quicken are all less amazing on Brine than Molik... though I guess PP may make it non-Character Minions anyway.
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Jun 18, 2017 7:21:13 GMT
Post by scorp on Jun 18, 2017 7:21:13 GMT
Blackhide Wrastler?
Rage/Abused/Enraged? That could be alot of dmg output.
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skormedlover87
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Jun 19, 2017 2:21:00 GMT
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Post by skormedlover87 on Jun 19, 2017 2:21:00 GMT
If we're going to get a minion inclusive theme, and we should, it's likely to take the form of a Paingiver theme. Whether this is a beast theme that allows the taking of a unit or two of non-character minion infantry, or an infantry centric theme that encourages heavy use of minions is largely a question of when we get the theme.
If we receive such a theme in our command book, it's almost certain to be the first variety. No increase in models needed, no bells or whistles.
If we instead get a minions inclusive theme as part of a Paingiver "book" (since we won't be getting those I'm not sure how to refer to the superlative treatment being offered to Trenchers and Northkin) it's far more likely to be lavish and robust. In addition to minions we might receive new solos, UA's, possibly a CA, maybe even a unit or 2 (please be ninjas riding tigers...)
Just to measure expectations, a beast theme in the command book is highly likely, but whether that will include Paingivers beyond Beast Handlers is anyone's guess. I'd say the worst news would be a beast theme that allowed all Paingiver models but not minions, as that makes another Paingiver theme unlikely and due to the Task Master, I can't imagine a minions theme without Paingivers.
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skormedlover87
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Jun 19, 2017 2:42:32 GMT
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Post by skormedlover87 on Jun 19, 2017 2:42:32 GMT
Regarding the original post, I'd say there are easily 6 current blocks of Skorne that could easily see transformation into themes.
Beasts Praetorians Cataphracts Venators Paingivers/Minions Exalted
Obviously Venators have already been done (though it's a rather lacking theme) and beasts are all but certain in the Command book judging by past releases. Whether Venators are our second theme or not isn't yet clear (or at least I haven't heard).
Imho, Praetorians should be our other book theme. For those saying that would elevate Mak2 cats even higher above other options, I reply that can easily be worked around in theme. Just stipulate small based Praetorian models work toward the bonus. Early in Mk3 teasing they mentioned an Army of the West theme, it could also be that, though since the AotW was supposed to be a balanced force I have no idea how they'll go about it with themes constructed currently.
Beyond that, Cataphracts will make a wonderful force but require more UA's, solos, bells and whistles. Same for Exalted imo, though they're closer. Paingiver/Minions I've discussed in a previous post.
The only other real aspect of Skorne not covered as part of this is Nihilators, and they've got a looooonnnngg way to go before they're a theme. Maybe they can run with the beasts in the upcoming theme instead? The way Sword Knights do in heavy Metal.
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demonic
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Jun 20, 2017 2:39:34 GMT
Post by demonic on Jun 20, 2017 2:39:34 GMT
Lets be honest here...
Titan Theme- instead of all beasts, we need a titan only theme that gives out support bloat for free. Titans have been around since the beginning of Skorne, so much so that they brought them all the way across the damn desert to fight against the iron kingdoms! Free tamers, counter charge or +1 to atk and dmg roles for titans. free agonizer, that kind of stuff.
Exhalted Theme- Something that's been getting pushed hard as of late is the life after death motif of ancestral guardians, hakaar, and immortals along with both zaals. Considering that the immortals are just a few POW shy of being exactly what we are looking for, I think it'd be nice to see an Exhalted theme where they get +2 to dmg roles and tough.
Cataphracts and Praetorians just need fixed rather than themed. Paingiver theme? just use Morghoul 2 or 3.
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Jun 20, 2017 6:08:09 GMT
Post by sentinel on Jun 20, 2017 6:08:09 GMT
My prediction is beast theme cause everyone have one and ancestral theme cause I expect construct warbeasts (Naaresh feat changes to only living tells we will get them once) and cause full boat of ancestrals are perfectly fits into 62 points:
Ancestral Guardian [5] Ancestral Guardian [0] Ancestral Guardian [0] Hakaar the Destroyer [0] Immortals (max) [15] - Extoller Advocate [4] Immortals (max) [15] - Extoller Advocate [4] Immortals (max) [15] - Extoller Advocate [4]
In Zaal2 thats 42 points left. Enought for 2 titans, krea and paingivers. Too good to be true))
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didder
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Jun 20, 2017 13:37:53 GMT
Post by didder on Jun 20, 2017 13:37:53 GMT
I'd like to see defensive strike, advance move, and a couple free lights in a cataphract theme force.
I'd like see a lights, archidons, and rhinodons theme force that grants beasts foresight & pathfinder, free paingivers/willbreakers, and 1 model gets to start with the Vision spell effect.
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