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Post by custardboy on Jun 8, 2017 23:39:12 GMT
My meta is generally of the opinion that it is too strong and fails its intent. I field it as beast spam that happens to get free support, never with units (except bees). I'd like to see another beast theme that isn't this one instead. Much like the winter guard theme originally spammed jacks, which they fixed then released the actual jack theme.
So, give us an explicit beast theme. Preferably one that isn't just 'have free stuff' and offers something interesting like Cryx hyper aggressive and nephilim unyielding.
Change oracles to get free solos, UA's or LESSERS for 20 points of magic ability stuff and spawning vessels.
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princeraven
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Post by princeraven on Jun 9, 2017 3:53:22 GMT
Balanced compared to what? I consider Oracles to already be balanced in comparison to the other competitive theme forces in the game.
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Post by neutralyze on Jun 9, 2017 16:11:35 GMT
Beast theme instead of giving green points(this is not oracles btw) just give lights and heavies an additional fury stat, no free points.
As for oracles, I feel giving warbeasts telemetry for this theme and units what they currently get would be fine.
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Post by chillychinaman on Jun 9, 2017 23:59:53 GMT
Beast theme instead of giving green points(this is not oracles btw) just give lights and heavies an additional fury stat, no free points. As for oracles, I feel giving warbeasts telemetry for this theme and units what they currently get would be fine. Your idea for +1Fury is an interesting suggestion and I think something like that would've been interesting in CoD to get extra mileage out of lights.
However is you're change for Oracles in addition to, or replacing one of the current theme benefits? If it is replacing something, do you have a particular thing in mind?
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Post by cainuslupus on Jun 11, 2017 9:03:37 GMT
Beast theme instead of giving green points(this is not oracles btw) just give lights and heavies an additional fury stat, no free points. As for oracles, I feel giving warbeasts telemetry for this theme and units what they currently get would be fine. Then no one would play it. Oracles is very restrictive theme. Also with other competitive themes giving away points we would be even more down on points considering how everything we have is overcosted. Giving extra point of fury would be interesting as addition to CoD, maybe even making it playable (still, OoA or not I wouldn't play it, Nephilims are too weak theme on their own right now without any non-character heavy). |
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Post by copperflame on Jun 12, 2017 14:34:52 GMT
Yea, with competitive themes giving out free points - it is almost a requirement for any theme to be classified as 'worth it' to have free points as well. (not a fan of this but I've already said that in a different thread)
I like the idea of Telemtry for OoA - that would have made it more 'magic-y'. I also like extra fury idea, that one is gold too.
For any Neph theme, I would have suggested a 'All Nephlim warbeasts count as warrior models for Faction Friendly spells/effects'.
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Post by cainuslupus on Jun 12, 2017 18:16:16 GMT
For any Neph theme, I would have suggested a 'All Nephlim warbeasts count as warrior models for Faction Friendly spells/effects'. That would be nightmare to balance in the future and would block us from getting nice infantry focused spells and abilities while not providing much incentive to play in theme. |
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Post by heckler on Jun 13, 2017 4:39:59 GMT
would make bethayne's feat with a nephilim army ridiculous.
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Post by chillychinaman on Jun 13, 2017 5:32:13 GMT
would make bethayne's feat with a nephilim army ridiculous. I'm mean it's only a 4d6 13(15) for at least 17pts a pop. A Warlord already does almost that plus decapitation for 14pts. |
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