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Post by cygnarstronk on Jun 6, 2017 10:34:57 GMT
Hi khadorans, i'ma filthy swan, but my friend is starting khador and has enough budget to get a 75 pts list. He wants to play butcher 3, is he still sort of viable? What would you suggest for his list?
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Post by K23 on Jun 6, 2017 11:21:01 GMT
Hi! It's totally ok to play swans!
B3 is a strong choice. Your friend might consider a Jaws of the Wolf theme with lots of jacks, WM scouts, engine seers and an occasional solo.
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Post by K23 on Jun 6, 2017 11:24:55 GMT
Just an example. Ruin is a must-have. The kayazy can be swapped for another marauder.
Theme: Jaws of the Wolf 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Stockpile - Steamroller Objective
Kommander Zoktavir, the Butcher Unleashed - WJ: +22 - War Argus - Ruin - PC: 17 - Kodiak - PC: 13 - Kodiak - PC: 13 - Juggernaut - PC: 12 - Juggernaut - PC: 12 - Juggernaut - PC: 12
Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Widowmaker Marksman - PC: 0
Widowmaker Scouts - Leader & 3 Grunts: 8 Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5 Kayazy Eliminators - Leader & Grunt: 5
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Post by Netherby on Jun 7, 2017 1:13:30 GMT
B3 isn't quite as ridiculous as in Mk2, but that is more to do with rules and model changes than with him personally. He is actually BETTER at killing things in Mk3 himself, he just has more difficulty in getting to things now. But he still has an impressive personal threat range. It's difficult to make an argument against taking Ruin in every Butcher list. So B3 + Ruin is pretty much your list starting point. From there it depends on the desire to go with a theme or not. B3 doesn't really do a lot to support his army, it's more about the army supporting him. So you want things that are pretty self sufficient. Basically find out if they are wanting to play in a theme or not and what models in the faction they actually like, then get back to us
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Post by smoothcriminal on Jun 7, 2017 12:17:20 GMT
B3 is bread and butter of competitive Khador and also one of the best options against Cygnar we have. Typical B3 list is B3 + Ruin + 2x Kodiak/Devastator + 2x Juggernaut/Marauder + stuff. Stuff can be: wg in wg theme, kayazy + snipers + seers + more jacks in jaws theme, merc support like Orin + Bokurs + Ragman + Madelin + any unit out of theme. Due to power of B3, lists are highly customizable and it's hard to pick one that's strictly better than others. Wardog is highly recommended.
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