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Post by oncomingstorm on May 22, 2017 22:14:39 GMT
I'm entering a tournament next week, planning to run Elara2 as my primary caster, with the following list (Defenders is still CID content and thus can't be used, nor can any of the new releases):
Elara2 -Imperatus -Phoenix -Chimera
Houseguard Halberdiers +CA Sentinels + CA
2 Arcanists 2 Mage Hunter Assassins Houseguard Thane
The lists cracks armor very effectively, and does decently against infantry swarms. However, it's susceptible to control-based lists, as well as lists packing dedicated infantry removal.
for pairings, I'm considering either Kaelyssa or Helynna in Forges of War, but I'm open to suggestions (either in terms of pairing advice or re: my Elara2 list.)
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on May 23, 2017 0:21:28 GMT
Personally I am a huge fan of Elara2/Kaelyssa. That will be my pairing once my Elara comes in in june.
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Post by nightflier on May 23, 2017 16:50:03 GMT
Your list similar to my mine that I pair with Thyron in forges of war
War Room Army
Retribution of Scyrah - Thyron warforges
Theme: Forges of War 3 / 3 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army
Thyron, Sword of Truth - WJ: +27 - Sylys Wyshnalyrr, The Seeker - PC: 0 - Griffon - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8) - Griffon - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8) - Griffon - PC: 8 (Battlegroup Points Used: 8) - Manticore - PC: 14 (Battlegroup Points Used: 3) - Manticore - PC: 14 - Phoenix - PC: 18 - Phoenix - PC: 18
Arcanist Mechanik - PC: 2 Arcanist Mechanik - PC: 2 Arcanist Mechanik - PC: 0 House Shyeel Artificer - PC: 0
House Shyeel Battle Mages - Leader & 5 Grunts: 10
THEME: Forges of War
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GENERATED : 05/23/2017 11:47:40 BUILD ID : 2038.17-03-15
I find it makes it hard for non weapon master infantry swarms to deal with while being good at dealing with the number of attacks and boosted attacks on feat
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Tucker
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Post by Tucker on May 24, 2017 17:40:34 GMT
I like to pair Elara2 with Kaelyssa, with whom I take a lot of Strike Force and play for assassination. Kaelyssa does really well against control as she can counter the enemy's control efforts with her own, and she cuts through most defensive tech.
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Post by Tom_Bombadil_ on May 24, 2017 19:12:02 GMT
I like to pair Elara2 with Kaelyssa, with whom I take a lot of Strike Force and play for assassination. Kaelyssa does really well against control as she can counter the enemy's control efforts with her own, and she cuts through most defensive tech. Yes I agree, I tend to play Kae for an assassination angle and Elara for more Attrition. One is the scalpel the other is the hammer.
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Post by oncomingstorm on May 25, 2017 5:30:01 GMT
Hmm, I was considering the following list for Kaelyssa, what do you think?
Kaelyssa - Banshee - Hydra
Dawnguard Sentinels + CA + Soulless Dawnguard Invictors + CA
Elara + Discordia
3x Arcanist
has a decent assassination threat on most squishy casters, doesn't fold to control. Not 100% sold on the Invictors, though.
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Tucker
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Post by Tucker on May 25, 2017 13:35:15 GMT
Eiryss 1 or 2 is almost essential for any assassination-oriented army. I would try to cram her in there somewhere. Strike Force are nice for an assassination too.
Otherwise it looks fine - more like a control/scenario army that has a decent assassination threat to keep the enemy honest. If you're not worried about making assassination your go-to play then you don't need to change anything.
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Post by oncomingstorm on May 25, 2017 18:22:17 GMT
Eiryss 1 or 2 is almost essential for any assassination-oriented army. I would try to cram her in there somewhere. Strike Force are nice for an assassination too. Otherwise it looks fine - more like a control/scenario army that has a decent assassination threat to keep the enemy honest. If you're not worried about making assassination your go-to play then you don't need to change anything. I would love to get Eiryss1 in there, period - she's generally great into the Hordes matchup, as in conjunction with Kaelyssa, you can really mess with Warbeast fury management. I'm not sure how I can rejig points in order to fit her in, though. I don't really like MHSF, especially not for assassination. Unless you have a reliable way of knocking the opponent down, or increasing their ability to hit, they're not that accurate (especially since the mini-feat no longer ignores many terrain benefits to Def) and when they hit, POW 10 isn't terrifying unless you have a way to boost it. I find they're much more useful for triggering backlash/putting damage on jacks. As to the list being more control oriented...I find that fully assassination oriented lists are easy to counter, if the opponent realizes what you're doing. Engineering an assassination is 10x harder when the opponent knows that it's your only win condition, so I'd rather have a list that can put out attrition or scenario pressure, and then take advantage of that pressure to assassinate if needed.
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