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Post by sentinel on May 18, 2017 20:43:21 GMT
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Post by dessert hydra on May 19, 2017 10:01:51 GMT
ah to have a theme list that adds 4 solos like Zaadesh, AG's or PGMT for free..
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Post by sentinel on May 19, 2017 11:47:41 GMT
Ideally would be benefit from free Agonizers and min PGBH units in a beast heavy theme. But thats just dreams...  |
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Post by zich on May 19, 2017 12:03:10 GMT
That's not going to happen, but free Willbreakers/Soulwards are pretty much a given.
Interesting battle reports though, they were a good read. It seems you have a lot of experience in the Cygnar matchup. How would you evaluate Zaadesh2 into the Haley2/Nemo3 pairing. I would guess it depends a lot on what's in the Haley2 list and on your number of Archidons.
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Post by sentinel on May 19, 2017 13:12:53 GMT
I played Zaadesh2 with 3 sentry, 2 archidons, karax and gladiator into 4 heavy version of Haley2. Found it bad for us. Haley negates too many tricks Zaadesh have: TK stops countercharge, defensive strike and retaliation strike. Thorn dont care about being engaged, and countercharging titans miss him more often than not with def 15 and dodge.
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Post by sentinel on May 19, 2017 13:54:23 GMT
Against Nemo3 Zaadesh might work though. Have to test it - really thought my Xerxis2 list will work before I tried it. In best case scenario it leads us to list chicken situation, and that might be best what we could have.
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Post by zich on May 19, 2017 14:05:25 GMT
I see. Are the Slingers really a good choice into Leap City? It would seem to me that they die rather easily to stray POW10s.
As to Haley2, I played Zaadesh2 into her only once and won mostly on an enemy mistake (gave me a Countercharge with Despoiler onto his Stormwall on his Feat turn). However, I feel like it should at least be possible if I get to go first. Zaadesh himself is rather hard to assassinate and some of our faster beasts (Molik) behind a cloud wall could force an early feat. While Thorn doesn't care about being engaged, countercharging Archidons could effectively block TK landing spots and even LoS if they hit their charge attack. This would necessitate Haley to spend further resources which she might not have available.
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Post by sentinel on May 19, 2017 14:29:17 GMT
I see. Are the Slingers really a good choice into Leap City? It would seem to me that they die rather easily to stray POW10s. As to Haley2, I played Zaadesh2 into her only once and won mostly on an enemy mistake (gave me a Countercharge with Despoiler onto his Stormwall on his Feat turn). However, I feel like it should at least be possible if I get to go first. Zaadesh himself is rather hard to assassinate and some of our faster beasts (Molik) behind a cloud wall could force an early feat. While Thorn doesn't care about being engaged, countercharging Archidons could effectively block TK landing spots and even LoS if they hit their charge attack. This would necessitate Haley to spend further resources which she might not have available. In a report game slingers killed 2.5 fireflies and a lancer. Thats 30 points, more than i invested in them. Even Molik is outthreaten by Haley heavies. Its becomes a game of positioning and personal skill, but i feel that Haley player have more options, while Zaadesh player can only hope for opponents mistakes \ bad luck. I call that bad matchup. |
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Post by zich on May 19, 2017 16:54:59 GMT
I see. Have you tried that Cat Lady into that Cygnar pairing? I imagine Nemo would be quite painful for her, but Haley should be playable.
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Post by sentinel on May 19, 2017 19:09:05 GMT
She has no chance into Nemo3. According to courageofcaspia reports, Haley also have upper hand against her. Every time Olannon writes about how hard matchup it was and everytime he wins.
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Post by drillbossd on May 24, 2017 23:07:56 GMT
She has no chance into Nemo3. According to courageofcaspia reports, Haley also have upper hand against her. Every time Olannon writes about how hard matchup it was and everytime he wins. For that reason, I struggle to get useful data from Courage of Caspia. No matter what he says about the matchups it seems to culminate in Victory for the Swans. I just ordered 40 karax from mini market... not sure I'll ever use all of them, but that Zaal build you have looks quite fun. Great, concise reports! |
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Post by Cryptix on May 24, 2017 23:41:52 GMT
She has no chance into Nemo3. According to courageofcaspia reports, Haley also have upper hand against her. Every time Olannon writes about how hard matchup it was and everytime he wins. For that reason, I struggle to get useful data from Courage of Caspia. No matter what he says about the matchups it seems to culminate in Victory for the Swans. I just ordered 40 karax from mini market... not sure I'll ever use all of them, but that Zaal build you have looks quite fun. Great, concise reports! So you were the one that bought them all! At least one of those should be mine! |
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Post by zich on May 24, 2017 23:51:00 GMT
She has no chance into Nemo3. According to courageofcaspia reports, Haley also have upper hand against her. Every time Olannon writes about how hard matchup it was and everytime he wins. For that reason, I struggle to get useful data from Courage of Caspia. No matter what he says about the matchups it seems to culminate in Victory for the Swans. I just ordered 40 karax from mini market... not sure I'll ever use all of them, but that Zaal build you have looks quite fun. Great, concise reports! Thanks for making me imagine what painting 40 Karax feels like. |
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Post by drillbossd on May 25, 2017 5:22:08 GMT
They will get painted black with ochre bases and red arcs, then they will receive color-coded shields and possibly matching spears. Anything beyond those 4 colors they will have to earn on the table. |
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Post by drillbossd on May 25, 2017 5:24:33 GMT
Heh, it's possible I already have a box (I had some unassembled warmachine before moving to England and back), in which case I'll have a box to sell. Incidentally, I posted about the purchase on the Skorne FB group and people demanded that there be batreps, so I linked them back to your reports, sentinel. |
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