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Post by toggie on May 3, 2017 19:43:33 GMT

Hi there

I'm off to my first major tournament in 2 weeks. My two lists are below and I'm looking for advice on any tactics that people use with similar lists. I don't get to play often so any warnings or bad match ups to look out for are welcome.

I've put together 2 adr lists as I swore to myself at the beginning of Mark 3 to only play adr casters to expand my collection and for variety. In this case I only own ragnor and doomy2.

Ragnor is meant to be a brick, anti shooting list that can threaten with guns if needed. Doomy2 is all aggression with Rok for infantry clearing with the adr providing protection against guns and scenario.

I can't run POD with my collection at the moment and I also like minions in lists.

Trollblood - Ragnor

Theme: No Theme Selected
74 / 75 Army 40 / 40 Specialist

Bunker - Steamroller Objective

Ragnor Skysplitter, the Runemaster - WB: +30
- Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 4
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15)
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15)
- Troll Axer - PC: 10
- Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 15
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9
- Troll Bouncer - PC: 9

Feralgeist - PC: 2
Feralgeist - PC: 2

Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 5 Grunts: 9
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Northkin Fire Eaters - Leader, Trollkin Grunt, and Pyg Grunt: 7

SPECIALISTS
Pyre Troll - PC: 9
Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 4
Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 4
Saxon Orrik - PC: 4

Trollblood - Hoarluk2

Theme: No Theme Selected
75 / 75 Army 40 / 40 Specialist

Fuel Cache - Steamroller Objective

Hoarluk Doomshaper, Rage of Dhunia - WB: +27
- Dire Troll Mauler - PC: 15 (Battlegroup Points Used: 15)
- Mulg the Ancient - PC: 19 (Battlegroup Points Used: 12)
- Earthborn Dire Troll - PC: 15
- Troll Axer - PC: 10
- Rök - PC: 21

Lanyssa Ryssyl, Nyss Sorceress - PC: 4

Krielstone Bearer & Stone Scribes - Leader & 3 Grunts: 6
- Stone Scribe Elder - PC: 3
Northkin Fire Eaters - Leader, Trollkin Grunt, and Pyg Grunt: 7
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew - Leader & 1 Grunt: 2

SPECIALISTS
Dire Troll Bomber - PC: 19
Troll Bouncer - PC: 9
Troll Whelps - 5 Whelps: 4
Feralgeist - PC: 2
Feralgeist - PC: 2
Trollkin Runebearer - PC: 4

Thanks in advance

Tom

trollsareblue Junior Strategist Posts: 220	First Masters lists May 3, 2017 20:40:59 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by trollsareblue on May 3, 2017 20:40:59 GMT Seem mainly fine, given your preferences. The only thing I might suggest is that you might do better with a bouncer in the second list, rather than the fire eaters and gobbers. Doomy is squishy. Good luck!

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First Masters lists May 4, 2017 3:42:00 GMT via mobile

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Post by toggie on May 4, 2017 3:42:00 GMT

May 3, 2017 20:40:59 GMT trollsareblue said:

Seem mainly fine, given your preferences. The only thing I might suggest is that you might do better with a bouncer in the second list, rather than the fire eaters and gobbers. Doomy is squishy. Good luck![/8quote]

Thanks for the advice. There is a bouncer in the adr for that exact swap.

Which match ups.would you advise the bouncer into?

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Post by trollsareblue on May 4, 2017 13:16:49 GMT

It depends. Does your opponent have accurate, long range shooting, or a way to do a bunch of random damage (electroleaps are the main culprit, here). I've found just having the bouncer around makes people less likely to take potshots at your caster. The bouncer also makes a good transfer target. It also doesn't hurt to have a source of Earth's Blessing that doesn't want to run forward and get killed. A KD'd Doomy is probably screwed.

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Post by toggie on May 5, 2017 7:01:28 GMT

Thanks for the advice. I'll swap in the bouncer if I get trapped in a shooty matchup.

I played two games with Ragnor last night against Lucant and Caine3.

Beat Lucant as he was inexperienced with his list but think that this is a good match up if I can get the other player to feat first.

Against Caine3 I lost by assassination on turn 6. Lost nothing on approach due to feat and lost only earthborn Axer and bouncer to caines feat. Just need to position Ragnor better and whelps were great as an adr swap in this case.

Learnt a lot.

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First Masters lists May 6, 2017 23:48:15 GMT

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Post by Big Fat Troll on May 6, 2017 23:48:15 GMT

Your Ragnor list is very similar to Jay Larsen's Rocky Mountain Rumble list from last year.

Ragnor [Fuel Cache]
Ragnor
Runebearer
Dire Troll Mauler
Mulg The Ancient
Troll Bouncer
Troll Bouncer
Horgle Ironstrike
Pyre Troll
Krielstone (max, Leader+5)
Stone Scribe Elder (Krielstone UA)
Fire Eaters
Fire Eaters
Fell Caller Hero
Lanyssa Ryssyll
Feralgeist

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toggie Read Page 5 Posts: 25	First Masters lists May 8, 2017 20:47:06 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by toggie on May 8, 2017 20:47:06 GMT Yes. I took that and other lists from discount games and the other wtc lists into account when fitting into my model collection. It's taken me a while to catch up hence no theme lists as yet 😀

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First Masters lists May 13, 2017 10:33:37 GMT via mobile trollsareblue and mattmcd like this

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Post by toggie on May 13, 2017 10:33:37 GMT

Just won first game at the event 5 0 on scenario against Abby2 with Doomy2 with a Bouncer swapped in for the fire eaters and swamp gobbers. Good advice!

Scenario was outlast and got the alpha strike to clear out left hand zone and dominate turn 2 onwards.

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