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Post by Azahul on Nov 23, 2020 22:39:30 GMT
home.privateerpress.com/2020/11/23/november-2020-dynamic-update/Obviously nothing there that directly impacts Farrow (though some heavy nerfs to meta terrors, which is always nice  ), but our new Troll buddies largely kept their changes. I guess we're still waiting to see how Boomshaper3 and Gudrun2 shape up to get a full scope of how the theme force ended up, but good news for the Azazello theme so far.
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Post by sorokin on Nov 25, 2020 9:56:23 GMT
Will any of you try Azzy in Vengeance of dhunia going forward? I am still hm and haing over his battle group there, because i really want to integrate troll beasts, but they are costly.
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Post by zwergenkrieger on Nov 25, 2020 19:14:22 GMT
I´m going to run Carver in Vengeance of Dhunia, because I think that there is some synergy with Troll light warbeasts as well as their Gargantuans.
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Post by Azahul on Nov 25, 2020 20:54:35 GMT
Still pending the final rules on Gudrun2 and Boomhowler3, but the Azazello list I ran in testing felt good and looked like this:
Azazello
-Pyre Troll (8)
-Troll Basher (7)
-Road Hog (15)
Max Champions (16)
-Skaldi (5)
Max Champions (16)
Valkyries (8)
Valkyries (8)
Min Krielstone (5)
-Elder (3)
Gudrun the Wasted (0)
Dhunian Archon (0)
Dhunian Archon (0)
Boomhowler3 (8)
Champion Hero (5)
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Post by sorokin on Nov 25, 2020 21:34:34 GMT
Still pending the final rules on Gudrun2 and Boomhowler3, but the Azazello list I ran in testing felt good and looked like this: Azazello -Pyre Troll (8) -Troll Basher (7) -Road Hog (15) Max Champions (16) -Skaldi (5) Max Champions (16) Valkyries (8) Valkyries (8) Min Krielstone (5) -Elder (3) Gudrun the Wasted (0) Dhunian Archon (0) Dhunian Archon (0) Boomhowler3 (8) Champion Hero (5) I see, why the basher in particular? |
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Post by Azahul on Nov 25, 2020 22:56:20 GMT
It's cheap, hits ok, and the list doesn't actually have any other hit fixers, so the animus comes in handy from time to time. Azazello can scalpel out one high defence target a turn (or a clump of them), but there's not really a way of helping the Champs if they need to handle something Def 14+. But the main objective was to just not exceed my Warbeast points because there's nothing in the list I'd want to cut. I don't consider it much of a priority to try and get an Earth's Blessing into the list anyway, since Azazello should be sprinting most turns and he can't do both.
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Post by shortcutbacon on Nov 26, 2020 8:19:49 GMT
I wonder if there are any Troll warcasters that can offer us any interesting tools in this theme.
Gunny 1 with guided fire gunboars seems novel.
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Post by sorokin on Nov 26, 2020 9:52:54 GMT
I wonder if there are any Troll warcasters that can offer us any interesting tools in this theme. Gunny 1 with guided fire gunboars seems novel. The problem is that all of them are balanced around the rune bearer, +2 CTRL range and either harmonious or spellslave are a pretty big deal for them and i am not sure yet that the stuff available in VoD makes up for his exclusion. |
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Post by Dirhavel on Nov 26, 2020 11:02:41 GMT
I've really enjoyed Gunnbjorn1 during the CID. With a Mountain King and Road Hogs to maximize the Guided Fire --> Assault --> Kill Shot --> Sprint shenanigans.
I'm not ready to buy a MK quite yet, but I'll certainly try it some more on Wartable when I get a chance!
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Post by Azahul on Nov 26, 2020 13:20:22 GMT
Yeah, Gunnbjorn1 with Road Hogs seems like a winner. I haven't looked too closely at any of them, I'm not terribly interested in running Troll Warlocks for much the same reason that I've never touched a Gator Warlock, but the idea of two boosted to hit 10" sprays a turn seems like quality in a meta that is increasingly full of single wound infantry.
Azazello feels like the strongest VoD Warlock though. Helga2 has some decent game too. Almost like they were designed with the theme in mind...
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Post by charlzheimer on Nov 26, 2020 16:13:39 GMT
i kind of want to avoid gooing trollbloods, might get a few second hand models and see if i can convert them into farrow looking models.
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Post by shortcutbacon on Nov 27, 2020 6:02:31 GMT
Azazello feels like the strongest VoD Warlock though. Helga2 has some decent game too. Almost like they were designed with the theme in mind... Gotta be some hidden troll gems in the theme. How else will they sell me a whole other faction? I think you may have already hit the nail though when you addressed Dun archons with Valks and Stone. Its an absurd amount of tank. |
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Post by Azahul on Dec 19, 2020 2:30:24 GMT
Aaaaand we have the rules for the final pieces of VoD, with the Riot Quest wave one releases having their rules drop today. No changes from CID, so I just need to wait for my minis to turn up to be able to start playing the Azazello build I was testing for most of the CID period Kogan and Dez & Gubbin are also available for WWFF lists, though they're a little more awkward to fit into lists. |
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), but our new Troll buddies largely kept their changes. I guess we're still waiting to see how Boomshaper3 and Gudrun2 shape up to get a full scope of how the theme force ended up, but good news for the Azazello theme so far.
